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« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2016, 09:12:24 AM »

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Move cycles off the roads onto their own cycleways and to shared paths and you will decrease the number of collisions with road vehicles (good) though you might increase the number of collisions with pedestrians.   Are there figures for the numbers of pedestrians admitted to hospital due to collisions with cyclists?
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Yes - two. A sharp drop from the last few years, when the average has been more like five.

That was in the BCC1 source. There are a lot more data, and back to 2003, in their Excel file - which I can now see came from BCC2. They (BCC2) publish their own analysis of those figures, but only up to 2014, and the full table must have been provided to BCC1 by BCC2 on request.

1Bristol Cycling Campaign            2Bristol City Council.
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« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2016, 11:54:06 PM »

I think Bristol Cycling Campaign use the abbreviation BCyC presumably to avoid text like that.  Grin

Their Mr Booth does a very poor job of explaining the difference between a cycle path and a cycle lane – or maybe that's down to the Post reporter, but in any case I don't think that report makes it clear to those (probably most people) who don't already know.
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« Reply #62 on: November 24, 2016, 07:49:39 AM »

I think Bristol Cycling Campaign use the abbreviation BCyC presumably to avoid text like that.  Grin

Their Mr Booth does a very poor job of explaining the difference between a cycle path and a cycle lane – or maybe that's down to the Post reporter, but in any case I don't think that report makes it clear to those (probably most people) who don't already know.

The Post does a poor job of explaining anything these days. I assume that either Mr Booth didn't furnish them with a press release to copy and paste, or he did, but not a very good one. Local journalism these days doesn't have the resources, either in terms of people or expertise, to deal with complex issues. Like cycling.
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« Reply #63 on: November 24, 2016, 08:26:59 AM »

Journalistic standards are creeping up from local to national. What starts as a scrawled note in the Sheepy Parva Argus ends up cut and pasted into the New York Times.
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« Reply #64 on: November 24, 2016, 04:07:01 PM »

Journalistic standards are creeping up from local to national. What starts as a scrawled note in the Sheepy Parva Argus ends up cut and pasted into the New York Times.

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« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2017, 04:11:06 PM »

From the Bristol Post:

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Separating cyclists and traffic ‘is safest solution’ but not always possible in Bristol, says council

The council has pointed out its ‘Dutch-style’ cycle paths but said the size of the road can make them impossible

Cyclists and traffic being separated is the “safest solution” Bristol City Council (BCC) has said in response to a study that found segregated cycle lanes can reduce injuries.

These kinds of traffic systems are “not always possible” in Bristol however, according to the council, because of the size of the roads.

The council has highlighted some of the existing “Dutch-style” cycle paths in the city as well as routes that are underway to improve cycling provisions.

A new study on trends in cycling safety, carried out in the US, found segregated cycle lanes reduce the number of injuries on roads.

BCC’s spokesman said: “We agree that separating cyclists is the safest solution and already have areas within Bristol where cyclists are separated from traffic in an effort to provide a safer environment and make cycling more accessible to those who are less confident on a bike. In recent years we have introduced “Dutch-style” cycle paths on Baldwin Street, Cattle Market Road and Clarence Road. We are also in the process of developing a segregated route on Prince Street and continuing the route on Baldwin Street to complete the cycle path all the way to the centre.”

The Metrobus route will include a traffic-free area to use and the council said it is taking steps to connect Greenways and Quietways.

Bristol was praised by campaign group Cycling UK who said the city is widely regarded as the leading location in the country for embracing space for cyclists.

The Bristol Cycling Campaign has put together a “tube map”-style cycling network which BCC has set as its aspirational target.

However, the council added these segregated cycle lanes are sometimes not possible in the city.

The spokesman added: “These kind of improvements to the cycling infrastructure require investment and are not always possible in some areas of the city depending on the size of the road and existing traffic arrangements.”


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« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2017, 08:37:41 PM »

I'd have thought "the leading location in the country for embracing space for cyclists" was London, with its various "superhighways". But that phrase "embracing space for cyclists" is telling; Dutch style cycle paths, when they're actually in Holland or, say, Denmark, tend to be more like bus lanes, physically separated from the rest of the carriageway but taken out of "car space" rather than, as in Bristol (and most of the rest of the UK apart from those London superhighways) from "pedestrian space". In fact they're probably best described as "roads for cycling" rather than cycle paths, with all the obstructions and loss of priority that entails.
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