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« Reply #675 on: January 28, 2021, 09:55:45 pm »

Here's a heads-up for you all. And well in advance too.

GWR's website, in its engineering works section, states that work will be taking place from "Bristol Temple Meads to Lawrence Hill/Patchway" between Saturday 10th July and Friday 06th August. Presumably this will be the remodelling of Bristol East Junction along with all associated works (signalling, etc.)

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The EAS confirms this is when Bristol East is scheduled, saying for week 15 (from 10th July):
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BRISTOL EAST 8 WEEK CORE BLOCKADE. PART 1
OF 8.

POSSESSION CONTINUES AS P2021/2688025

MAJOR TIMETABLE AMENDMENTS REQUIRED.

THROUGH ROUTE AVAILABLE VIA RHUBARB
CURVES THROUGHOUT [APART FROM DURING
NBS PERIOD].

SERVICES BETWEEN FILTON BANK AND TEMPLE
MEADS TO REVERSE IN BRISTOL EAST DEPOT
AREA [APART FROM DURING NBS PERIOD].

NO ACCESS TO BARTON HILL DEPOT FOR
DURATION.

NBS is "no booked services".

Now, you'll have spotted that 8 weeks goes well past the 8th August. Part two starts with this comment for week 19:
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BRISTOL EAST 8 WEEK CORE BLOCKADE. PART 5
OF 8.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF P2021/2688027.

POSSESSION CONTINUES AS P2021/2688177.

MAJOR TIMETABLE ALTERATIONS REQUIRED.

FROM 0100 SAT

NO ACCESS TO TEMPLE MEADS FROM THE EAST
/ FILTON BANK. THROUGH ROUTE AVAILIBLE VIA
RHUBARB CURVES. PLATFORMS 8, 10, 12 AND 15
AVAILABLE AS WEST FACING BAYS ONLY. NO
ROUTE EXISTS THROUGH TEMPLE MEADS.

0100 SUN TO 0400 MON

NO ACCESSS TO TEMPLE MEADS.

SERVICES TO WEST OF ENGLAND TO DIVERT VIA
WESTBURY.

SERVICES TO TERMINATE AT BATH SPA.

NO SERVICES ON FILTON BANK OR SEVERN
BEACH BRANCH.

RAIL REPLACEMENT SERVICES REQUIRED.

ACCESS TO BBHT, AVONMOUTH AND
SEVERNSIDE SITA VIA CHARLTON TUNNEL /
HALLEN MARSH JN ONLY.

ACCESS TO ST PHILLIPS MARSH DEPOT VIA
BRISTOL WEST ONLY, TO/FROM COUNTRY.

FROM 0400 MON

NO ACCESS TO TEMPLE MEADS FROM THE EAST
/ FILTON BANK. THROUGH ROUTE AVAILABLE VIA
RHUBARB CURVES. PLATFORMS 8, 10, 12 AND 15
AVAILABLE AS WEST FACING BAYS ONLY. NO
ROUTE EXISTS THROUGH TEMPLE MEADS.

NO ACCESS TO BARTON HILL DEPOT FOR
DURATION.

The final end date appears to be 9th September. The details vary week by week, with different platforms being out of use. You'd need to go through the whole lot carefully to find out exactly what's in use - or wait for the service information later.
Many thanks for this. I use trains as part of my day job so this is going to be fun!

Dave
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« Reply #676 on: January 30, 2021, 05:27:27 pm »

Someone has put this on a different forum and it shows the planned layout after the works in comparison to the layout now. Shared here in case anyone is interested.

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« Reply #677 on: January 30, 2021, 07:16:59 pm »

Does the platform 0 project need the panel box to go first?
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« Reply #678 on: January 30, 2021, 08:19:17 pm »

Does the platform 0 project need the panel box to go first?

Yes. As does the extension of p 1.
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« Reply #679 on: February 05, 2021, 05:42:33 pm »

Bit slow to spot this, but if you go to https://www.bristol.gov.uk/planning-and-building-regulations/look-at-and-track-planning-applications and search for 20/05380/LA you'll see the plans for BRI eastern entrance!
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« Reply #680 on: February 05, 2021, 10:08:53 pm »

Bit slow to spot this, but if you go to https://www.bristol.gov.uk/planning-and-building-regulations/look-at-and-track-planning-applications and search for 20/05380/LA you'll see the plans for BRI eastern entrance!

Thank you for that and in the words of one of Arte Johnson's comic creations "very interesting"!
The canopy work was something that I was not aware of but explains earlier talk of this work coinciding with line closures during the Bristol East resignalling....if that still happens.
I had no idea that the existing GPO tunnel swings off so sharply to the left.
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« Reply #681 on: February 05, 2021, 10:34:45 pm »

Yes, I had no idea that they'd have to (carefully and temporarily) remove sections of the canopy.

You can rest assured that the Bristol East work (rather more than just resignalling) is happening. The programme of works will take place over this summer, and will include some significant blockades over an 8-week period: https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/western/bristol-rail-regeneration/
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« Reply #682 on: February 06, 2021, 01:30:12 am »

Yes, I had no idea that they'd have to (carefully and temporarily) remove sections of the canopy.

You can rest assured that the Bristol East work (rather more than just resignalling) is happening. The programme of works will take place over this summer, and will include some significant blockades over an 8-week period: https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/western/bristol-rail-regeneration/

Ah yes, I too am confident about the Briz East work going on.  It's the canopy and east entrance work being done at the same time that I was rather less sure about.
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« Reply #683 on: February 06, 2021, 09:00:35 am »

You can rest assured that the Bristol East work (rather more than just resignalling) is happening. The programme of works will take place over this summer, and will include some significant blockades over an 8-week period: https://www.networkrail.co.uk/running-the-railway/our-routes/western/bristol-rail-regeneration/

Indeed.  The twice-a-year timetable briefings / discussions for the central area at which community stakeholders put forward ideas took place last week. With lockdown and so many changes, it was a lot different from the usual menu of looking at specific stops, stations, connections, aspirations for the current timetable cycle.  However, GWR (thank you, if reading this!) took the opportunity to fill the attendees in on wider issues including the engineering at Bristol.   

Red Squirrel's link is probably the best early pointer at the moment - but to summarise lots and lots of work, including an extra track to take away the 3 track section which is now the bottleneck with Filton Bank having 4 tracks, and layout changes that make the whole shooting match a lot more flexible, with new signal gantries high enough to let overhead electric wires pass under them should that even happen.

There are so many phases and different set-ups during the engineering that my head hurt.  Probably best to summarise them  as they get clarified in a few weeks. A number of issues flagged up at the briefing which are still under consideration / being worked on to help ensure it all works.    "Could it have been brought forward and done while the passenger numbers were low" was asked ... "no - too complex to be able to organise more quickly" is the answer. Yes, it is known that the works will be happening with service disruptions at the same time that there's likely to be a surge of domestic leisure travel.

[Edit: I'm sure he meant 'Filton', not 'Dilton'. I don't think there are any plans to four-track Dilton Marsh - RS]
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« Reply #684 on: March 05, 2021, 12:51:31 pm »

A little light reading: https://www.bristoltemplequarter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/BTQDF-Exec-Summary-Template.pdf

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The Bristol Temple Quarter and St Philip’s Marsh Regeneration Programme is one of the largest city centre housing and employment schemes in the UK. Our vision for the immediate area around Temple Meads train station is to create a sustainable and flourishing new urban area, a place that is welcoming to all – to live, work, study, enjoy leisure time and builds on Bristol’s strengths as a world class city.

With Bristol Temple Meads station at its heart the Temple Quarter and St Philip’s regeneration programme will redevelop over 130 hectares of brownfield land in two development phases over 25 years.
 
The regeneration will create up to 10,000 homes and up to 22,000 jobs across several thriving mixed use communities in the areas around and to the east of Temple Meads station. As well as creating new places to live and work the development will unlock benefits for local communities and businesses.
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« Reply #685 on: March 05, 2021, 07:50:32 pm »

At first sight it seems to have abandoned the idea of reopening the Midland Train shed as platforms - am I correct?
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« Reply #686 on: March 05, 2021, 08:57:04 pm »

At first sight it seems to have abandoned the idea of reopening the Midland Train shed as platforms - am I correct?

Yes; this became clear back in December 2019 when the Mott McDonald masterplan was made public. The Midland Shed will become the main entrance hall for the station, with the northern entrance becoming the main way in. That still allows for Platform 1 and a new Platform 0 to accommodate 5-car trains; these platforms will serve the relief lines towards Parkway, Severn Beach and Henbury so it makes sense that local services rather than the earlier-mooted London trains will terminate here.
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« Reply #687 on: March 05, 2021, 09:19:16 pm »

At first sight it seems to have abandoned the idea of reopening the Midland Train shed as platforms - am I correct?

Yes; this became clear back in December 2019 when the Mott McDonald masterplan was made public. The Midland Shed will become the main entrance hall for the station, with the northern entrance becoming the main way in. That still allows for Platform 1 and a new Platform 0 to accommodate 5-car trains; these platforms will serve the relief lines towards Parkway, Severn Beach and Henbury so it makes sense that local services rather than the earlier-mooted London trains will terminate here.

I think the idea was to run London trains via Badminton from platforms 1 and 0. That did seem a little wasteful, given that there was only the intention of a half-hourly service on that. Crosscountry use P1 now for some Manchester trains, but the length of that round trip makes for a full shift with a break for the crew to have a meal, and the train isn't hogging a through platform while they eat. That isn't the way the London services work as a rule. It also means there will be no need for a pedestrian subway from Friary, but part of me still thinks it could be an opportunity lost. I can't explain why with any real logic.
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