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« Reply #315 on: February 04, 2013, 10:01:37 »

Here's week's 3 and 4 of '180 watch'.  Still not particularly impressive...



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« Reply #316 on: February 04, 2013, 11:22:31 »

i have just watched the FGW (First Great Western) YouTube training video which is quite old now (made when they (180's) were first introduced 2007/8) and after over 13 minutes of showing a plethora of faults and fault finding it is obvious back then that these units are an operational nightmare for any TOC (Train Operating Company) let alone for a poor driver and train manager who are working to quick turnarounds and high passenger loads.

i cannot fathom why on earth FGW chose to re-introduce these units when 5 years ago it was obvious they were such fiddly and temperamental bu**ers lol

way too much fiddly and touchy technology and probably too over-designed for the time.



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« Reply #317 on: February 04, 2013, 11:50:38 »

way too much fiddly and touchy technology and probably too over-designed for the time.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that!
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« Reply #318 on: February 04, 2013, 15:55:01 »

I'm on the 14.21 from Pad and it is a very comfortable 180 today. At least two in service as we passed an up service at Charlbury at around 15.45.

When they work they're very good.
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« Reply #319 on: February 04, 2013, 16:32:57 »

I was at Reading when your train arrived, slightly delayed at 14:57.  My goodness don't the brakes still squeal! 
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« Reply #320 on: February 04, 2013, 19:12:52 »

i cannot fathom why on earth FGW (First Great Western) chose to re-introduce these units when 5 years ago it was obvious they were such fiddly and temperamental bu**ers lol

You are not alone in having those thoughts. I can only suppose that FGW were desperate for the rolling stock and the Class 180s were the only show in town.

Oh, and a warm welcome to the forum ROGace.  Cheesy
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« Reply #321 on: February 05, 2013, 22:36:29 »

Even if a 180 only works a Cotswold train 50% of the time it's still better than a Turbo 100% of the time. Out of interest II which services fall under which diagram? The diagrams have been posted on here but not the numbers, so even if you could just post the first service for each diagram that would be great, just to see which services are the ones which are covered most often by Turbos.
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« Reply #322 on: February 06, 2013, 00:22:26 »

No problem, SS  Wink  Here's the first passenger working of each diagram:

OC501 - Works 1W10, the 05:48 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-WOS» (Worcester Shrub Hill - next trains)
OC502 - Works 2N04, the 05:22 PAD-OXF» (Oxford - next trains)
OC503 - Works 1P01, the 05:59 RDG(resolve)-PAD
OC504 - Works 2P22, the 07:00 OXF-PAD

The third day running that all four diagrams have been covered today by the way.  FGW (First Great Western) even had the nerve to let all five units out as OC502 was part covered by sets 102 and 103!
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« Reply #323 on: February 08, 2013, 09:38:18 »

The inbound journey for the evening Halts train (i.e. Great Malvern-Didcot) suffered a train failure yesterday and was cancelled, so the Halts was a two-coach Turbo again. I was hoping to pick up the 16.32 from Charlbury to Oxford, but with the Adelante cancelled, and the 17.10 HST (High Speed Train) running 35 minutes late, it wasn't the most successful of evenings out...
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« Reply #324 on: February 08, 2013, 11:52:36 »

I noticed on JourneyCheck that the 1513 HFD» (Hereford - next trains)-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) (1710 CBY) had been delayed at Worcester by about 45 minutes due to signalling problems.  Now we know from the link below what the cause of Richard Fairhurst's inconvenience appears to have been. 

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=11977.0;topicseen

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« Reply #325 on: February 18, 2013, 10:32:29 »

Weeks 5 and 6 of '180 watch' - better, but hardly overwhelming.

Al least in terms of the diagrams that aren't covered, it's usually OC504 which is first to go and that diagram only has one trip down the Cotswold Line on it (09:21 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-WOF and 12:06 WOF-PAD), so that's not too bad as long as a 3-car Turbo is used.  Set 106 has now spent over a week locked away, hopefully receiving some major work as it's the worst unit of the lot according to common consensus!

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« Reply #326 on: February 20, 2013, 09:33:48 »

Al least in terms of the diagrams that aren't covered, it's usually OC504 which is first to go and that diagram only has one trip down the Cotswold Line on it (09:21 PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-WOF and 12:06 WOF-PAD), so that's not too bad as long as a 3-car Turbo is used. 
Alas, I need to catch the 12:06 WOF-PAD today...
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« Reply #327 on: February 20, 2013, 09:46:24 »

Alas, I need to catch the 12:06 WOF-PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) today...

Good news for you then, 180108 is heading your way right now!  Wink
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« Reply #328 on: February 20, 2013, 12:16:45 »

And indeed, here it is, with its free WiFi...
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« Reply #329 on: February 20, 2013, 13:35:07 »

And 180-108 does seem to be working OK.

But ...

We left Moreton 7 minutes late, apparently as a result of a track recording train being ahead of us.

And now we're sat at Charlbury waiting for the 13:21 departure from Oxford coming the other way. Due here 13:41, so we'll be 30+ late by the time we're on the move again.

Can someone remind me about the benefits of the ^80M spent on the double-tracking?
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