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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2012, 18:14:35 » |
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St Ives and Falmouth lines, as well as many other branchlines in the south west were cleared for 158s.
They were passed for the St Ives branch but not allowed into the branch platform at St Erth, only know of one occasion when one has been to St Ives and that was about 7 or 8 years ago when the 150 failed, the last 3 or 4 trains were run using a 158 and it had to run in and out of Platform 2 at St Erth and also shunt back on to the branch when the last train used to sit at St Erth for 30 mins! as for the Paignton, the Cardiff-Paignton-Cardiff is now booked as a 3 car 150 but the 17xx St James' Park-Paignton and return is booked as a 2 car 150 mon-thurs. And yes, they were never allowed all the way to Newquay but for a short while the Falmouth was booked as a 158 in 2006. Misprint I presume. 17 xx StJames Pk to Paignton read 158 |
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2012, 18:53:59 » |
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St Ives and Falmouth lines, as well as many other branchlines in the south west were cleared for 158s.
They were passed for the St Ives branch but not allowed into the branch platform at St Erth, only know of one occasion when one has been to St Ives and that was about 7 or 8 years ago when the 150 failed, the last 3 or 4 trains were run using a 158 and it had to run in and out of Platform 2 at St Erth and also shunt back on to the branch when the last train used to sit at St Erth for 30 mins! as for the Paignton, the Cardiff-Paignton-Cardiff is now booked as a 3 car 150 but the 17xx St James' Park-Paignton and return is booked as a 2 car 150 mon-thurs. And yes, they were never allowed all the way to Newquay but for a short while the Falmouth was booked as a 158 in 2006. Misprint I presume. 17 xx StJames Pk to Paignton read 158 sorry, meant 158! there was a short time in 2006 when 158's were booked on the Falmouth but i should have pointed out that they were infrequent visitors before then and up until about 2008 also. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2012, 01:46:28 » |
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Curiousity creeping in here. Roche is the only platform on the branch that sits partly on the inside of a curve, so presumably the issue is the 158 coaches scraping the platform. Yet a 153 is slightly longer (According to Angel trains data sheets) and a Mk3 is the same length.
So is it the bogies are further apart that cause the issue??
I honestly don't know, could be, as the reason they are banned from Gunnislake is Calstock Platform, which is the same situation. Funny how a Voyager can fit through Roche platform though, and there was never a trial, one just went on through in passenger service! |
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 11:16:35 » |
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Yes it is strange how HST▸ 's and Voyagers and just about everything is allowed to Newquay except 158's! (and 159's)
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2012, 11:10:09 » |
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HST▸ 's (MK▸ III) trailers have worked the Cornish Mainline since late 70's but when the Class 158 were introduced (early 90's) trimming of the platform edges at several stations took place in cornwall, I was at Par whilst this work was done.
So QED MK III's and Class 158-9 MUST have different body profile.
With reference to Class 158's there was (in Wessex days, possibly W&W▸ days) a weekday service from Bristol? (might have been further afield) to Plymouth that on FRIDAY only extended to Falmouth and returned as a Late FO (about 23:15) Falmouth to Par train that was booked to be a 158.
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2012, 18:54:54 » |
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Had forgot about that working smokey, however, it was a service to Par that was extended to Fal on a friday night, i think it was the 20:57 from Exeter St David's.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2012, 20:13:46 » |
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That being said I searched for photos of 158's coupled to other units and found a hybrid 158/156 and the 156 looked wider there just seems to be one component sticking out just behind the doors under the body I'm guessing this is the issue
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2012, 22:51:07 » |
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Had forgot about that working smokey, however, it was a service to Par that was extended to Fal on a friday night, i think it was the 20:57 from Exeter St David's.
Summer 2001 TT I found has a 20:30 Exeter St Davids-Par, extended to Falmouth Docks Fridays only. Returned as the 2333 Falmouth Docks to Par. |
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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2012, 19:14:39 » |
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On hire ATW▸ 158 as far as Par most likely. Possibly an ex Wales and Borders set. Briefly see the Royal Albert Bridge. |
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2012, 19:43:56 » |
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Standard Wales and West interior so could have been a Wessex, ATW▸ or FGW▸ service. Uploaded in 2007 so likely to have been an FGW service with a still unrefurbished Wessex 158. Back then they were used regularly on Plymouth to Penzance services.
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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2012, 00:49:20 » |
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All unrefurbished 158s where like that inside. I remember one weekend during an engineering block the Falmouth unit failed and a ATW▸ 158 which should of just stabled on Long rock all weekend was used, but FGW▸ tried to do it without telling ATW but they got busted!!
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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2012, 14:54:19 » |
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158714 was used on test in the early 90s for testing the branches - here it is at Carbis Bay.
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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2012, 15:55:28 » |
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Why does that look so much more 'at home' on a cornish branch than the 150 ?
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