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« Reply #45 on: July 05, 2016, 21:03:01 »

Seem to recall there are some serious capacity issues on parts of that route from Taunton to Nuneaton. 
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« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2016, 22:07:00 »

The proposed Leamington to Nuneaton service via Kenilworth and Coventry (usually known locally as Nuckle) was cut back to an improved frequency Nuneaton to Coventry service into a new up side bay platform, (yet to be built), and a separate Leamington to Coventry service terminating in the down slow platform at Coventry, because it was impossible to path it right across the layout at Coventry.

Assuming those two services happen in the next year or two, following the completion of Kenilworth's new station, surely if paths suddenly became available across Coventry they would not be giving them to the extra open access service, but the existing locally managed project?

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« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2016, 10:25:05 »

Indeed - and there is no capacity for anything else Leamington-Coventry - even XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) can't get their second train/hour across there, so Go-OP (Original Poster / topic starter) have zero chance - until such times as that gets completely double-tracked - and NR» (Network Rail - home page) have just pushed that project into the long grass, doing just enough to enable 1tph to stop at Kenilworth.
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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2016, 13:06:44 »

Post-AGM (Annual General Meeting) updates:

http://www.go-op.coop/train/

http://www.thenews.coop/106682/news/co-operatives/go-op-co-op-presents-somerset-rail-improvement-plans/

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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2017, 08:35:26 »

Sorry to keep resurrecting this thread but the Go-op website is one on a list "to check very occasionally" and there is a new newsletter (cannot find it posted elsewhere).

http://www.go-op.coop/workspace/uploads/files/issue11.pdf

The picture painted by this latest one looks pretty bleak.
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« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2017, 10:23:12 »

Will never happen, IMHO (in my humble opinion) and as I've suggested before. 

I believe this is little more than an enthusiastic amateur one man band;  but OA is something of a minefield even for the qualified.

GNWR/GC» (Great Central Railway - link to heritage line), despite their backing from Arriva and much actual operating experience, are still no further on with their ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) approved West Coast OA service, I have a feeling they can't get the rolling stock required before their ORR "use it or lose it" deadline expires.   GC also abandoned various proposed OA services that were about to be approved on ECML (East Coast Main Line) branches because they didn't wash their face without cross support from the London Edinburgh service that went to First Group.

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« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2017, 10:55:04 »

Any sugns of the latter making any progress also?
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« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2017, 11:03:47 »

Any sugns of the latter making any progress also?

The ECML (East Coast Main Line)?     Haven't seen anything - but at least you'd hope the probability of First Group being able to organise a handful of extra AT300 variants for that service would be quite high, rather than vanishingly low...

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« Reply #53 on: March 25, 2018, 09:43:18 »

Update ... Alex Lawrie of Go-op spoke at West Wilts Rail User Group last Thursday (23rd March 2018); I have written up my notes and posted in the TransWilts members area at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19541.0 - coffee shop members who are not part of that area, please ask.  Not posting in public - far too many of my typos, and I am asking the other members who were there to check my memory and ensure I have it all correct.
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« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2019, 15:01:48 »

I can't see that much has happened since, although the plans for Taunton to Nuneaton have been picked up by the Minehead rail group as a possibility for a service to Bish Lyd.
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« Reply #55 on: January 02, 2019, 16:38:33 »

Six and half years since this topic started.

In that time porcine aviation could have been achieved.
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« Reply #56 on: January 02, 2019, 19:22:53 »

Six and half years since this topic started.

In that time porcine aviation could have been achieved.

I am very conscious, gentlemen, that it took from 2005 to 2013 - that's 8 years - to get from a service that isn't useable to the current rather paultrey - but at least enough to make is useable - service on the line.   Things don't happen quickly in Wiltshire unless they're cutbacks.
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« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2019, 00:22:33 »

Bad news arrives on horseback, good news on crutches.
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« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2019, 17:10:10 »

An update from the Go-op web site ... http://www.go-op.coop/info/go-op-announces-new-route-proposal/

For update meetings / briefings - see diary at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=21172.0

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GO-OP (Original Poster / topic starter) has been working on its plans for several years, with a group of frustrated rail travellers from the south west first meeting as a co-operative in 2009, ten years ago. Alex Lawrie, the Operations Director and a founder member, said, “The technical difficulties are hard to overstate. The UK (United Kingdom) railways are – for good reason – carefully regulated and we must prove in great detail that our ideas stack up.”

The proposal is for two trains made up of newly refurbished class 769 units to work a complex series of trips between Oxfordshire and Somerset. Even though there are only two, a carefully designed timetable will complement the existing services (many provided by GWR (Great Western Railway)) and provide useful connections so as to introduce a large number of useful journeys than you might imagine.

“A particular goal was to give some of the market towns of Somerset and Wiltshire a regular, functional service where at present the low frequency makes it hard to give up the car”, said Alex Lawrie. “In addition there are two long distance services a day that go all the way to Nuneaton, where connections to the north of England are available.”

The timetable (which will be put forward in terms of the overall number of services, rather than committing to specific times at this stage) provides:

• four direct trips each way between Swindon and Oxford, including some in peak hours and two extending through to Nuneaton via Leamington and Coventry.

• five trips each way between Castle Cary and Swindon, including some in peak hours and others that extend the day with early and late departures. That will make a total of 25 departures a day from Melksham, close to an hourly service. Frome too would see a big jump in service levels, close to hourly.

• from Castle Cary, four of our trains continue to Taunton, and two go to Yeovil. Combined with the existing Heart of Wessex services this should provide a more or less two hourly service between Westbury and Yeovil; and the Taunton trips combine with GWR's planned service improvements to provide close to hourly departures in the peaks. Again, we are extending the travelling day with early and late trains.

• the trips to Coventry from Oxford should connect at Banbury to good trains for Solihull and Birmingham.

• the Yeovil services, coupled with some carefully timed interchanges at Castle Cary, should create a viable Taunton - Yeovil option with eight trips a day each way (including some direct services). At present, this journey is rarely considered possible by train. From Taunton, there are connections all over the south west.

• Swindon will be connected to Taunton and Yeovil, with up to eight viable journeys a day (three being direct, others requiring one or two changes).

“As we are a co-operative, we want to engage with the potential users of the service early – and we’d also like to hear from people who’d like to try out with the team now, with view to maybe becoming employee members with us later”, said Alex Lawrie. “We are holding our first public meeting in Taunton on March 21st, and following up with an event in Frome on April 4th. We’d encourage anyone who’d like to find out more to come to these events, or visit www.go-op.coop for more information. This is just the start – we need to start planning bus services to bring people to the stations, and consider how we can further develop and enhance the service. Anyone in the area we serve can be part of the conversation.”
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