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« Reply #165 on: December 11, 2023, 01:31:57 » |
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It all sounds splendid, but so did all the previous plans.
Perhaps it will actually happen this time ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #166 on: December 11, 2023, 12:19:27 » |
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A gentle corner - more a bend, like a coiled spring.
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The artist formerly known as Four Track, Now!
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« Reply #167 on: December 13, 2023, 17:04:52 » |
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Are tickets on sale yet?
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Now, please!
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« Reply #168 on: December 18, 2023, 12:21:39 » |
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« Reply #170 on: December 19, 2023, 20:35:52 » |
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Probably 350/2's then I suspect as porternrook trying to get some fitted with batteries
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« Reply #171 on: November 15, 2024, 14:58:11 » |
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Some positive news for the Wiltshire & Somerset constituents amongst us. The ORR» have approved new train services between Swindon - Taunton & Weston Super Mare. Initially I assumed these would be via Bristol but reading the press release suggest these may run via Melksham & Westbury instead; https://www.orr.gov.uk/search-news/regulator-approves-new-go-op-train-service-between-swindon-taunton-and-weston-superApologies if there were a more suitable sub thread to put this news in, instead. Not sure what traction is lined up for this though. |
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Here, there and Everywhere!!
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« Reply #172 on: November 15, 2024, 15:00:33 » |
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« Reply #173 on: November 15, 2024, 15:06:48 » |
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Thanks for posting, within a couple of minutes of each other, ReWind and RichardB: I've just merged posts into this existing topic. CfN.  |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #174 on: November 15, 2024, 15:40:22 » |
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Note the rider ORR» have added As part of ORR’s decision, Go-op must provide evidence to ORR of the necessary finance to start operations, fund level crossing enhancements, and that the necessary rolling stock has been secured. ORR’s decision requires Go-op to do this without delay, and no later than November 2025. |
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« Reply #175 on: November 15, 2024, 16:21:43 » |
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Personal post - I am noting the grant and thinking.
It will be a delight if the outcome is an appropriately enhanced train service linking Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury and Frome. And the onward service to Taunton will be magic for people headed west as current connection from the TransWilts to there are "pants".
But ... I need to define "appropriately enhanced" and I can see various risks of it not reaching that definition. I congratulate Alex Laurie on the approval and I will certainly be in touch to help make sure that all the parties involved work together so that it does come out appropriate. He and his team have correctly identified, in my view, a market that the franchise / contract has failed to address and the abstraction data in the ORR» letter confirms that. And people would be initially delighted with class 153 carriages. Much more for me to follow up on to define those really wooly words "appropriately enhanced".
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« Reply #176 on: November 15, 2024, 16:59:15 » |
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Personal post - I am noting the grant and thinking.
It will be a delight if the outcome is an appropriately enhanced train service linking Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury and Frome. And the onward service to Taunton will be magic for people headed west as current connection from the TransWilts to there are "pants".
But ... I need to define "appropriately enhanced" and I can see various risks of it not reaching that definition. I congratulate Alex Laurie on the approval and I will certainly be in touch to help make sure that all the parties involved work together so that it does come out appropriate. He and his team have correctly identified, in my view, a market that the franchise / contract has failed to address and the abstraction data in the ORR» letter confirms that. And people would be initially delighted with class 153 carriages. Much more for me to follow up on to define those really wooly words "appropriately enhanced".
Go-op will not have to do much to the 153s as tfw have done a great job refurbishing them |
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« Reply #177 on: November 15, 2024, 19:29:46 » |
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Do we know how many level crossings have work needed on them as required by ORR»
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« Reply #178 on: November 15, 2024, 20:02:15 » |
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Yes. It's set out on page 6 of those 14 pages, in paragraphs 32 to 34: 32. Network Rail has assessed the potential increase in risk at each level crossing that
would be affected by the proposed Go-op services. It identified that there were eight level
crossings where the increase in risk was identified as being beyond that which Network
Rail considered tolerable. Network Rail confirmed there were no improvements already
planned or underway. For these eight level crossings, Network Rail has identified solutions
to reduce the risk and has stated these should be in place before operations start.
33. Network Rail has estimated the total cost of improvements at these eight level
crossings is £1.5m (as of March 2024). The estimates are based on similar improvements
previously carried out on Western route. It has not undertaken site-specific assessments
for delivering the works at this stage. Go-op has said that the costs provided by Network
Rail are consistent with its budget as part of its investment strategy.
34. To support operational viability and safety at level crossings ORR» will include
conditions within the track access contract requiring appropriate rolling stock to be secured
and the level crossing risk mitigations to be implemented in advance of the start of
operations. If these conditions are not met, the access rights will lapse.
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #179 on: November 15, 2024, 20:32:07 » |
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I can’t see how this can even work, unless you’re planning some lengthy dwell times at some stations like Westbury, Frome and Taunton to fit around the existing timetable. You’ve also got a huge 10-mile signal section between Castle Cary and Somerton. To squeeze anything through is going to prove problematic…. and 153’s. Not the quickest unit off the mark and with a top speed of 75mph.
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