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Author Topic: Railway bridges struck by road vehicles - merged topic, ongoing discussion  (Read 179338 times)
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« Reply #210 on: December 07, 2018, 20:55:42 »


Full marks for an appropriate slogan...
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« Reply #211 on: December 08, 2018, 13:06:44 »

Lorry drivers before setting from depos should measure the lorry they take before going down a route with bridges on.
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« Reply #212 on: January 07, 2019, 17:23:36 »

No need to measure the vehicle height, they need to simply read and understand the notice exhibited by law in all HGV cabs.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #213 on: January 08, 2019, 18:58:55 »

No need to measure the vehicle height, they need to simply read and understand the notice exhibited by law in all HGV cabs.

Seems like that this driver did not, and had a bill from NR» (Network Rail - home page).
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« Reply #214 on: January 08, 2019, 20:30:39 »

The up line just before Ivybridge is currently closed due to a vehicle demolishing part of a bridge.
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« Reply #215 on: January 08, 2019, 20:39:01 »

Fardel Bridge near Ivybridge. 236m 56.25ch MLN

https://goo.gl/maps/X5MZHZzLZW62

That's the down side of the bridge. The up side was the one struck.
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« Reply #216 on: January 08, 2019, 21:10:47 »

BNM's given us a Cure fan's view. Here's the view of an approaching vehicle: https://goo.gl/maps/3CH1H2FNvgA2

Once again the height plate gives the headroom in some sort of mediaeval unit with which I am unfamiliar, but at a guess it's around 4m. Googling up and down the road, I can't find any advance warning beyond a 7.5t weight limit which doesn't suggest a height restriction; maybe someone more familiar with the area can set me straight on that. The overhanging vegetation puts the tin hat on it - I think the driver may have been bowled a googly here!
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« Reply #217 on: January 08, 2019, 22:15:28 »

BNM's given us a Cure fan's view. Here's the view of an approaching vehicle: https://goo.gl/maps/3CH1H2FNvgA2

Once again the height plate gives the headroom in some sort of mediaeval unit with which I am unfamiliar, but at a guess it's around 4m. Googling up and down the road, I can't find any advance warning beyond a 7.5t weight limit which doesn't suggest a height restriction; maybe someone more familiar with the area can set me straight on that. The overhanging vegetation puts the tin hat on it - I think the driver may have been bowled a googly here!

He came past a 12ft triangle height sign. only in imperial.
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« Reply #218 on: January 08, 2019, 22:27:44 »

Fardel Bridge near Ivybridge. 236m 56.25ch MLN

https://goo.gl/maps/X5MZHZzLZW62

That's the down side of the bridge. The up side was the one struck.

When you say the up side, do you mean the side that is 12 ft above ground as opposed to the side in your picture that is 0ft above ground?  Grin
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« Reply #219 on: January 08, 2019, 22:30:55 »

BNM's given us a Cure fan's view. Here's the view of an approaching vehicle: https://goo.gl/maps/3CH1H2FNvgA2

Once again the height plate gives the headroom in some sort of mediaeval unit with which I am unfamiliar, but at a guess it's around 4m. Googling up and down the road, I can't find any advance warning beyond a 7.5t weight limit which doesn't suggest a height restriction; maybe someone more familiar with the area can set me straight on that. The overhanging vegetation puts the tin hat on it - I think the driver may have been bowled a googly here!

He came past a 12ft triangle height sign. only in imperial.

Just out of interest, how close to the bridge do you need to be to be able to read those signs?
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« Reply #220 on: January 08, 2019, 22:44:20 »

12 feet is 3.65m, so a little lower than most HGVs.
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« Reply #221 on: January 08, 2019, 22:45:19 »

No need to measure the vehicle height, they need to simply read and understand the notice exhibited by law in all HGV cabs.
Although that doesn't work in the case of a load – or trailer – higher than the cab.
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« Reply #222 on: January 08, 2019, 23:06:18 »


He came past a 12ft triangle height sign. only in imperial.

Well did she, thought? I can see the 12 shilling sign at the bridge - prominently displayed behind the branch of a tree - but I couldn't see any others when I googled up and down the lane...
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« Reply #223 on: January 09, 2019, 00:06:12 »

BNM's given us a Cure fan's view. Here's the view of an approaching vehicle: https://goo.gl/maps/3CH1H2FNvgA2

Once again the height plate gives the headroom in some sort of mediaeval unit with which I am unfamiliar, but at a guess it's around 4m. Googling up and down the road, I can't find any advance warning beyond a 7.5t weight limit which doesn't suggest a height restriction; maybe someone more familiar with the area can set me straight on that. The overhanging vegetation puts the tin hat on it - I think the driver may have been bowled a googly here!

He came past a 12ft triangle height sign. only in imperial.

Just out of interest, how close to the bridge do you need to be to be able to read those signs?

I've never managed to find any clear rules mandating where signs must be present, just the manual that prescribes what they are look like. So the size and content (with alternatives) of the sign and chord marker on the arch are set out, but with these words:
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Mandatory signs are not used at arch bridges, as the main risk to these comes from vehicles which, although low enough to pass through the central part of the arch, might strike the curved shoulder of the structure.
Those "mandatory signs" must be the ones with just the headroom in a triangle.

What the manual says "should" be provided is enough advance signage, including routes avoiding, to fit with that principle that the markings on the bridge are not there to keep totally overheight vehicles from hitting it.
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« Reply #224 on: January 09, 2019, 09:03:49 »

One solution is the height scanning beam approaching the bridge under the railway at Pontrilas on the A465 between Abergavenny and Hereford.    Overheight vehicles travelling towards Hereford get a big warning sign.
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