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« Reply #360 on: September 23, 2020, 06:06:10 »

I was in Winchester earlier, and took a roundabout route home, and can confirm that the embankments at both sides of the low bridge have been completely cleared of trees and shrubs.

I wouldn?t like to think this was an admission of culpability...

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I would like to think that it's an attempt to reduce the likelihood that no child (or anyone else) ends up in hospital again, minus limbs, but there's always the possibility of reckless behaviour no matter how many precautions are taken.
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« Reply #361 on: September 23, 2020, 09:10:20 »


I would like to think that it's an attempt to reduce the likelihood that no child (or anyone else) ends up in hospital again, minus limbs, but there's always the possibility of reckless behaviour no matter how many precautions are taken.

Very true, even if it does look a bit like closing the stable door a bit too late. I would hope too that a check will be made on all safety critical signs, budget or no budget, even if it doesn't stop every accident.
It's a sad fact that safety provision invariably follows accidents. If you see the word "SLOW" painted on a road before a bend, you can bet that someone has been hurt, or a councillor or MP (Member of Parliament) inconvenienced, at some time in the past. The provision of big chevron boards signifies not just that there is a sharp bend, but that at least two drivers failed to take the normal action with the round turny-thing in front of the driver. If they are trimmed with reflective yellow, then either someone has driven through the first set of chevrons, or a lorry has taken to the air.
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« Reply #362 on: September 23, 2020, 10:44:01 »

Apparently the bus was only going 11mph when it hit the bridge. 

It reminds me of the Cannon Street rail crash in 1991, where a train hit the buffers at only 10mph yet killed two and injured over 500.  Modern train design means a similar collision now would likely have much less serious consequences, and would probably be prevented from happening in the first case by the buffer stop TPWS (Train Protection and Warning System) grids, but both incidents are a reminder that even low speed impacts can put lives at risk.
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« Reply #363 on: September 23, 2020, 11:14:18 »

The stable door analogy isn't entirely appropriate, because this stable is always full of horses. Equally, it always has many doors.
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« Reply #364 on: September 23, 2020, 11:33:59 »

The stable door analogy isn't entirely appropriate, because this stable is always full of horses. Equally, it always has many doors.

Let's hope the jockey remembers how high their horse is in relation to the stable roof.
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« Reply #365 on: September 23, 2020, 19:52:33 »

Might be camel racing. Or the jockey could even be a mahout. A safari park with giraffe rides?
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« Reply #366 on: September 24, 2020, 07:54:02 »


It reminds me of the Cannon Street rail crash in 1991, where a train hit the buffers at only 10mph yet killed two and injured over 500.  Modern train design means a similar collision now would likely have much less serious consequences, and would probably be prevented from happening in the first case by the buffer stop TPWS (Train Protection and Warning System) grids, but both incidents are a reminder that even low speed impacts can put lives at risk.

Incidents like this demonstrate the physics of momentum to the layman better than any lab experiment. Rail accidents at stations are also made a lot worse by the likelihood of there being a high number of standing passengers. In the case of Cannon Street, some would have been hanging out of opening doors. That the base of some of the carriages dated from a time when brand new aircraft had open cockpits and two pairs of wings probably didn't help.
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« Reply #367 on: September 29, 2020, 10:00:56 »

Another one this morning at Burnham, looks like a minibus, causing delays to rail services.......guessing the driver didn't see the huge yellow and black markings and "LOW BRIDGE" written on the er....low bridge 🤦‍♂️
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« Reply #368 on: September 29, 2020, 10:46:49 »

Burnham-on-Crouch to Burnham Market to Burnham (Bucks) to Highbridge and Burnham.

Sorry, have I got the wrong thread?
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« Reply #369 on: October 20, 2020, 20:33:48 »

Multiple bridge strikes today at Hampton Court junction, Horsley & Brookwood

https://twitter.com/NetworkRailWssx/status/1318545255277408257?s=09

This tweet mentions Horley (which is near Gatwick) but that's a spelling mistake. It is Horsley near Guildford.
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« Reply #370 on: November 09, 2020, 14:51:03 »

From BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Leicestershire

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Most frequently struck bridges in 2019-20
1. Watling Street, Hinckley, Leicestershire - struck 25 times
2. Bromford Road, Dudley, West Midlands - struck 24 times
3. St John's Street, Lichfield, Staffordshire - struck 23 times
4. Stuntney Road, Ely, Cambridgeshire - struck 19 times
5. Abbey Farm, Thetford, Norfolk - struck 16 times
6. Thurlow Park Road, Tulse Hill, London - struck 14 times
7= Carlisle Road, Cleland, North Lanarkshire - struck 13 times
7= Harlaxton Road, Grantham, Lincolnshire - struck 13 times
7= Stonea Road, Stonea, Cambridgeshire - struck 13 times
10= Coddenham Road, Needham Market, Suffolk - struck 11 times
10= Lower Downs Road, Wimbledon, London - struck 11 times
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« Reply #371 on: November 09, 2020, 14:53:55 »

And here is 11 to 20 - including one in Wiltshire

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11. Lower Downs Road Wimbledon, London 11 strikes

12. Warminster Road Wilton, Wiltshire 10 strikes

13. Prescott Street Wigan, Greater Manchester 10 strikes

14. Greenhills Road Paisley, Renfrewshire 9 strikes

15. Newhouse Road South Ruislip, London 9 strikes

16. Kenworthy Road Homerton, London 9 strikes

17. St John's Road Isleworth, London 9 strikes

18. Jews Lane Twerton, Somerset 9 strikes

19. Barrowby Road Grantham, Lincolnshire 8 strikes

20. Cambridge Road Hitchin, Hertfordshire 8 strikes

Whitehouse Bridge near Swindon Station used to top the list in the past but has obviously dropped down the order.
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« Reply #372 on: November 09, 2020, 16:27:49 »

Bit more on it............

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/18857947.wilton-warminster-road-bridge-12th-bashed-england/
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« Reply #373 on: November 09, 2020, 17:34:11 »

And number 18 is in Bath. It's a bit of an oddity in that list, very narrow and only 6' 6", so presumably struck by vans not lorries or buses. I used to duck when, a few decades ago, I regularly rode my motorbike under it, and it hasn't got any taller since!
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« Reply #374 on: November 09, 2020, 19:20:01 »

And number 18 is in Bath. It's a bit of an oddity in that list, very narrow and only 6' 6", so presumably struck by vans not lorries or buses. I used to duck when, a few decades ago, I regularly rode my motorbike under it, and it hasn't got any taller since!
The Wimbledon one at number 10 is also a car sized arch bridge. I hope the problem there is similarly just vans, it would be pretty scary if a bus or lorry driver attempted it...

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