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Author Topic: 00.20 Paddington to Slough (and beyond) Friday 14th December  (Read 12420 times)
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« on: December 16, 2012, 00:18:33 »

This train was so packed last night that the driver (DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) obviously) was having to tell people to wait for the next train (the 00.20 is first stop Slough though.. not sure people would want to wait ten minutes for one that stops everywhere and so get back a lot later... but FGW (First Great Western) obviously think it's ok)... At Slough where I had to get off (as that train doesn't stop at Maidenhead) there must have been more than 100 people in the taxi queue...

Which raises a couple of questions

1.. What were all the other FGW carriages doing on a Friday night to make this train only 3 carriages (especially bearing in mind that the next day was Saturday so no rush hour to contend with train wise).. I was on a similar timed train on a Saturday evening a few weeks ago and it was the same.. so sounds like it's the norm with FGW..
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2..Where were all these people in the taxi queue going (hypothetical question  Roll Eyes?  If it's Maidenhead perhaps it might be worth having a better late night service there (altho the Slough Taxi drivers must love it....not so sure about the Maidenhead ones though)..
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2012, 11:43:27 »

Write in and let them know how busy it was.  There are plenty of carriages about that time of night - even if three of them only went as far as Reading, a 6-car should be easy to resource.  Late evening services are so busy these days, and in the run up to Christmas especially there really should be more carriages provided.  Over the years there have been some improvements to the late evening trains - extra stops at Maidenhead, the Fridays only 23:42 train are two examples - but FGW (First Great Western) haven't kept up with demand as they should have done, and at a time of day when there are no shortage of carriages available it is unacceptable that they haven't.
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2012, 18:24:52 »

In my experience writing in will not get extra carriages.. but I could almost tell you what the reply will be (which will include the cut and paste bit about not being able to find extra carriages from nowhere as they won't read the time of the train properly)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2012, 19:18:08 »

It's not just an FGW (First Great Western) problem. I had the misfortune of catching a late train from Clapham Junction a couple of Saturdays ago on SWT (South West Trains). Every train came in as four carriages, and every time there were people left behind.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2012, 21:52:27 »

In my experience writing in will not get extra carriages.. but I could almost tell you what the reply will be (which will include the cut and paste bit about not being able to find extra carriages from nowhere as they won't read the time of the train properly)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
It will with South Eastern High Speed - but that's a whole different thing.
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2012, 11:08:58 »

In my experience writing in will not get extra carriages.. but I could almost tell you what the reply will be (which will include the cut and paste bit about not being able to find extra carriages from nowhere as they won't read the time of the train properly)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The specifics about each complaint all get logged, and the more complaints about overcrowding on late night trains, the more prominence that gets and the more likely something would be done about it.  Granted, one letter isn't going to change anything, but the more letters sent in, the more chance something will get done.
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2012, 12:12:04 »

I remember during the Olympics, I worked the 00:30 additional PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains)-EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) on a Friday night, and we had additional stop-orders for Slough and Maidenhead.  The DSM at Paddington told me that they had arranged the additional stops on the HST (High Speed Train) set, as the 2 stopper units leaving at a similar time were both short-formed due to train faults and earlier set swaps, so clearly there's some issue even at that time on a Friday.
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2012, 12:16:02 »

The 23:00 Paddington to Oxford on a Saturday night was recently extended as it was getting silly with a 3-Car.  Much more could/should be done though.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 12:34:47 »

How about sending in the link to this thread, as part of your complaint,  to emphasise the point??
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 15:12:04 »

I was on the very same train as the OP (Original Poster / topic starter) on Friday night and can confirm that it was absolutely mental.

I hopped off at Slough and joined the Maidenhead cab queue.  Fortunately we didn't have to wait too long as we cab shared with some strangers.

Its not just the Friday night trains that are silly - I caught a late night train last Thursday and could barely breathe it was so crowded.

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2012, 21:44:31 »

In my experience writing in will not get extra carriages.. but I could almost tell you what the reply will be (which will include the cut and paste bit about not being able to find extra carriages from nowhere as they won't read the time of the train properly)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The specifics about each complaint all get logged, and the more complaints about overcrowding on late night trains, the more prominence that gets and the more likely something would be done about it.  Granted, one letter isn't going to change anything, but the more letters sent in, the more chance something will get done.

But specifics in  my experience, as I said, just get standard cut and paste replies as they don't notice train times.. Don't worry I've been travelling and giving feedback to FGW (First Great Western) for many many years.. Nothing has changed really...  Grin
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 21:45:53 »

I was on the very same train as the OP (Original Poster / topic starter) on Friday night and can confirm that it was absolutely mental.

I hopped off at Slough and joined the Maidenhead cab queue.  Fortunately we didn't have to wait too long as we cab shared with some strangers.

Its not just the Friday night trains that are silly - I caught a late night train last Thursday and could barely breathe it was so crowded.



I guess you weren't someone I shared a cab with then?  I shared with a couple and another female... Bit of a tour of Maidenhead..
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2012, 22:14:00 »

Out of my area so no comment on the topic at hand, save to say welcome to the forum NickB.  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2012, 22:17:24 »

oops.. good point... welcome from me too! Sorry I didn't say that before NickB
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2012, 23:45:36 »

<tounge in cheek> FGW (First Great Western) seem to only notice exact train times when Compensation could be/is due Tongue Tongue Tongue </tounge in cheek>
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