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« Reply #690 on: November 10, 2018, 20:15:18 »


Can we get back now to people asking me difficult railway signalling questions Roll Eyes

Yeah...  whatever happened to those long rectangular ones that used to go up and down?   Wink
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« Reply #691 on: November 10, 2018, 21:08:45 »


Can we get back now to people asking me difficult railway signalling questions Roll Eyes

Yeah...  whatever happened to those long rectangular ones that used to go up and down?   Wink

Wash your mouth out please.  They only go down on this patch (OK, there once was a couple that went up instead, but we soon got rid of those).  There are more of the ones that go down left than you might think..... Wink
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« Reply #692 on: November 10, 2018, 21:10:27 »

Now then, nobody has asked (yet) about the PRELIMINARY ROUTE INDICATOR on the Up Relief at the new Horfield Junction assuming its been installed now....
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« Reply #693 on: November 10, 2018, 21:11:53 »


Can we get back now to people asking me difficult railway signalling questions Roll Eyes

Yeah...  whatever happened to those long rectangular ones that used to go up and down?   Wink

Wash your mouth out please.  They only go down on this patch.  There are more left than you might think..... Wink

Hehe....  I know.  And trust me I do still love to see them in action!
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« Reply #694 on: November 10, 2018, 21:24:29 »

Now then, nobody has asked (yet) about the PRELIMINARY ROUTING INDICATOR on the Up Relief at the new Horfield Junction assuming its been installed now....

Hi SandT...  could you tell me about the preliminary 'feather' indicator on the Up Relief please?  Wink
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« Reply #695 on: November 10, 2018, 21:39:08 »

Now then, nobody has asked (yet) about the PRELIMINARY ROUTING INDICATOR on the Up Relief at the new Horfield Junction assuming its been installed now....

Hi SandT...  could you tell me about the preliminary 'feather' indicator on the Up Relief please?  Wink

Now you are really trying hard to wind me up aren't you....  going to bed now, tell you tomorrow...
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« Reply #696 on: November 10, 2018, 21:43:47 »

Now then, nobody has asked (yet) about the PRELIMINARY ROUTING INDICATOR on the Up Relief at the new Horfield Junction assuming its been installed now....

Hi SandT...  could you tell me about the preliminary 'feather' indicator on the Up Relief please?  Wink

Now you are really trying hard to wind me up aren't you....  going to bed now, tell you tomorrow...

Thanks.  Joking aside yeah I would like to know please   Smiley
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« Reply #697 on: November 10, 2018, 21:53:38 »

Now then, nobody has asked (yet) about the PRELIMINARY ROUTING INDICATOR on the Up Relief at the new Horfield Junction assuming its been installed now....

Hi SandT...  could you tell me about the preliminary 'feather' indicator on the Up Relief please?  Wink

Now you are really trying hard to wind me up aren't you....  going to bed now, tell you tomorrow...

Thanks.  Joking aside yeah I would like to know please   Smiley

Me too, assuming it's one of those arrows in a theatre-type indicator like the one at the top of the Lickey and at Aynho.
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« Reply #698 on: November 10, 2018, 22:49:47 »

Perhaps a bit like Clifton Down station, but in every other context people talk about Clifton Downs. Although maybe they didn't when it opened in the 1870s.

The area known as The Downs consists of two downs - Clifton Down, and Durdham Down. I've done no research on this, so I can't be sure, but I am guessing that Clifton Down Station was named after one of these.
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« Reply #699 on: November 10, 2018, 23:22:08 »

In all my time in Bristol I referred to, and heard referred to, The Downs as the plural, never Clifton Downs.

That's not to say their aren't many erroneous references online to the entire Downs area as Clifton Downs. One of the chief culprits being the Bristol Post.
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« Reply #700 on: November 11, 2018, 01:09:49 »

The area known as The Downs consists of two downs - Clifton Down, and Durdham Down. I've done no research on this, so I can't be sure, but I am guessing that Clifton Down Station was named after one of these.
"All they Downs is up" ("The Bristol Song" by The Wurzels)  Grin

Anyway I was out and about this morning. At the Bristol Temple Meads end signals BL1818 and BL2054 have been replaced by new signals with Position 3 feathers. Interestingly BL2054 remains with a single lens while BL1818 is being upgraded (for want of a better word) to dual lens. As can be seen in one of the photos I took from St. Philips Causeway signal BL1816 has yet to be replaced but is, I suspect, awaiting its fate. BL1818 is in the middle while BL2054 is on the right.

After watching the installation of BL1818 I drove up to Lockleaze and walked from Bonnington Walk to the footbridge just south of Filton Abbey Wood station which was a hive of activity. As can be seen in the other attached photo the recently constructed signal gantry next to the bridge now has 3 signals on it: BL1573 (replacement for existing signal), BL1575 and BL1577 (both newbies). In a piece of forward thinking BL1575 has been given a position 4 feather. My understanding on this is that although BL1575 will, for now, be fixed at red but, from what I was told on a Facebook group relating to signalling, the old 'emergency crossover' will eventually become a signalled move although the author of that post didn't say when. Perhaps when the new platform comes into serve in December?

I should perhaps add, for the avoidance of doubt, that the photo of the signal gantry was taken through a metal fence so no trespass was committed in the obtaining of that photo.

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« Reply #701 on: November 11, 2018, 09:46:18 »

Dave, I wrote about the reversible working at Filton Abbey Wood in a post above: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=13113.msg251122#msg251122  and if you look at the track layout I posted here, all is explained: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=13113.msg236581#msg236581 and http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=13113.msg248151#msg248151

...and it looks like there are having an "oh dear, its pointing the wrong way" moment with BL1818 signal.... Roll Eyes  Note that its a POSITION 1 JUNCTION INDICATOR.  Interesting that its been installed as a 4-Aspect signal as the Signalling Plan and Drivers Briefing document I mentioned in an earlier post, both show it as a 3-Aspect signal (as is Signal BL2054 on the right, which is correct, but unfortunately its also pointing the wrong way!) Tongue

Signal BL1816 on the left is not being replaced.
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« Reply #702 on: November 11, 2018, 10:18:02 »

Interesting that its been installed as a 4-Aspect signal as the Signalling Plan and Drivers Briefing document I mentioned in an earlier post, both show it as a 3-Aspect signal. Tongue

It seems quite common these days to fit signals with two LED heads (i.e. 4-aspect) signals with the upper head not used, so they are in fact 3-aspect signals.  Presumably it makes it easier to change them in the future?  Either that or somebody ordered too many 4-aspect signals.   Wink
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« Reply #703 on: November 11, 2018, 10:23:40 »

Interesting that its been installed as a 4-Aspect signal as the Signalling Plan and Drivers Briefing document I mentioned in an earlier post, both show it as a 3-Aspect signal. Tongue

It seems quite common these days to fit signals with two LED heads (i.e. 4-aspect) signals with the upper head not used, so they are in fact 3-aspect signals.  Presumably it makes it easier to change them in the future?  Either that or somebody ordered too many 4-aspect signals.   Wink

Thats a new one on me II, and I really don't understand why as the signal spacing distances are different and conversion from 3-Aspect to 4-Aspect signalling would most likely involve repositioning the signals anyway.  Also a bit misleading for drivers, who have been briefed differently.....  I think your latter theory might be the correct one Grin
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« Reply #704 on: November 11, 2018, 10:48:02 »

Now then, nobody has asked (yet) about the PRELIMINARY ROUTE INDICATOR on the Up Relief at the new Horfield Junction assuming its been installed now....

So SandT, joking aside i'd really like to know about this please.  Is this like the ones i've seen around Paddington - the square box above the signals - that show what route is set on the next set of signals that have the actual route indicator attached?
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