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« Reply #840 on: November 16, 2018, 18:29:31 »

Rower40 posted a warning a while back (here) about limited platforming options at Filton Abbey Wood until the timetable gets rewritten. However, that may not help a lot given the restrictions of the track layout.

A path via platforms 1 and 2 can take any track or route, north or south. However, for platforms 3 and 4 only paths using the Relief Lines to the south and going via Patchway are possible. So P1/2 must accommodate all trains using the Mains and all trains via Parkway.

Currently the primary stopping service reaching FIT is provided by trains via or to/from Parkway, plus a few to Cardiff, and the Severn Beach trains use part of the line only. If that is still the pattern, then the capacity is limited to that of one pair of platforms and tracks, plus however many south Wales trains also use the Reliefs (but may not stop). Filton Bank as a whole is only a short stretch of line, so mixing fast and slow paths will work, but any increase in the number of stopping trains reduces the number and speed of available non-stop paths using P3/4 at FIT.
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« Reply #841 on: November 16, 2018, 20:49:48 »

Don't forget that after new year 2019, Filton Abbey Wood platform No.2 becomes reversible and useable by Down Trains between Bristol Parkway and Bristol TM(resolve).
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« Reply #842 on: November 17, 2018, 11:40:38 »

Don't forget that after new year 2019, Filton Abbey Wood platform No.2 becomes reversible and useable by Down Trains between Bristol Parkway and Bristol TM(resolve).

Why then.? Why not now.

Is there a proper running signal now at the London end of Platform 2. I wondered as it shows a LOS signal on Opentraintimes map. Also spotted unusual running of trains a Gloucester train went from platform 4, The signal was still red. Plus a Bristol Parkway to Cardiff goes from 1. Again the signal did not work. I Hope the map gets sorted by NR» (Network Rail - home page) soon as it is driving me banannas.

Forgot to say this refers to Bristol Parkway.
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« Reply #843 on: November 17, 2018, 12:01:13 »

Don't forget that after new year 2019, Filton Abbey Wood platform No.2 becomes reversible and useable by Down Trains between Bristol Parkway and Bristol TM(resolve).

Why then.? Why not now.


Can't do it until they update the Electronic Live Block Overlays? WinkSmiley
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« Reply #844 on: November 17, 2018, 12:03:36 »

Don't forget that after new year 2019, Filton Abbey Wood platform No.2 becomes reversible and useable by Down Trains between Bristol Parkway and Bristol TM(resolve).

Why then.? Why not now.


Can't do it until they update the Electronic Line Block Overlays? WinkSmiley

I assume these are modules and software that allows the axle counters to work in reverse.
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« Reply #845 on: November 17, 2018, 12:29:10 »

I must stop this; it's not big and it's not clever...
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« Reply #846 on: November 17, 2018, 13:14:56 »

I hope FT,N aka Tony of the Teflon Tonsils and Taffeta tuxedo is doing his vocal warm up scales and arpeggios for his warm up arial 'Fourtrack for Filton Bank' to be sung on Monday morning....
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« Reply #847 on: November 17, 2018, 13:52:04 »

I hope FT,N aka Tony of the Teflon Tonsils and Taffeta tuxedo is doing his vocal warm up scales and arpeggios for his warm up arial 'Fourtrack for Filton Bank' to be sung on Monday morning....

If he does, let me know which station he'll be performing at so I can catch my train from somewhere else!   Wink
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« Reply #848 on: November 17, 2018, 14:13:56 »

I hope FT,N aka Tony of the Teflon Tonsils and Taffeta tuxedo is doing his vocal warm up scales and arpeggios for his warm up arial 'Fourtrack for Filton Bank' to be sung on Monday morning....

If he does, let me know which station he'll be performing at so I can catch my train from somewhere else!   Wink

After the IET (Intercity Express Train) inaugural service publicity event's comedic outcome at Temple Meads, I wonder if the constructors,local politicians and rail chiefs are a little wary of being seen at any opening ceremony for the 4track. These sort of things have a bit of a history going back to Huskisson on day one.
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« Reply #849 on: November 17, 2018, 14:45:43 »

Don't forget that after new year 2019, Filton Abbey Wood platform No.2 becomes reversible and useable by Down Trains between Bristol Parkway and Bristol TM(resolve).

That should add flexibility, and maybe help with timings, but I don't see that it adds timetable capacity - borrowing the wrong platform line takes out too many potential paths, and this is on the busy side of the station.

As to why the facility isn't delivered by Monday, think about planning the work. Having found you need a blockade, you put into just the things that otherwise take years to do in short possessions, then anything else that is easier done then and doesn't push up the risk of overrunning, or would be a pain to resume operation without. Anything that can only be done at the end, after the major track changes, is a risk as it doesn't leave time to recover from problems, so if it can be done later you'd leave it out.
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« Reply #850 on: November 17, 2018, 15:13:20 »

Probably me being naïve, but I am assuming that the two coming weekend blockades are there at least in part to fix any snags...
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« Reply #851 on: November 17, 2018, 20:56:42 »

I hope FT,N aka Tony of the Teflon Tonsils and Taffeta tuxedo is doing his vocal warm up scales and arpeggios for his warm up arial 'Fourtrack for Filton Bank' to be sung on Monday morning....

As far as I'm aware, FT,N! is currently reposed in warmer climes.
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« Reply #852 on: November 17, 2018, 20:59:23 »

Don't forget that after new year 2019, Filton Abbey Wood platform No.2 becomes reversible and useable by Down Trains between Bristol Parkway and Bristol TM(resolve).

Why then.? Why not now.

Is there a proper running signal now at the London end of Platform 2. I wondered as it shows a LOS signal on Opentraintimes map. Also spotted unusual running of trains a Gloucester train went from platform 4, The signal was still red. Plus a Bristol Parkway to Cardiff goes from 1. Again the signal did not work. I Hope the map gets sorted by NR» (Network Rail - home page) soon as it is driving me banannas.


Because there is further signalling work required at Bristol Parkway to introduce the third line and additional signals/routes.
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« Reply #853 on: November 17, 2018, 22:36:38 »

F4T T-2 Grin

According to the Train Manager on a XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) service I was on yesterday (16/11/2018), XC were understood to be making contingency plans for a possible overrun on Monday.  Might just be railway talk of course Roll Eyes
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« Reply #854 on: November 17, 2018, 23:17:30 »

XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) were understood to be making contingency plans for a possible overrun on Monday...

As are prudent passengers Smiley
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