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« Reply #945 on: November 21, 2018, 09:09:31 »

Another good site for real time maps is ;-

www.sussextrains.co.uk

which is a paid for site but does offer a 'daily free map' service of which todays is Didcot to Maidenhead with the North Downs line to Dorking
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« Reply #946 on: November 21, 2018, 09:11:03 »

I think I'll call it "Game Over".
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« Reply #947 on: November 21, 2018, 09:27:49 »

I think I'll call it "Game Over".

I would say not so much "Gave Over" as "Game Won" - and that's a famous win for everyone.
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« Reply #948 on: November 21, 2018, 09:43:30 »

Hmm... don't get me wrong, 'Tony' is a decent-enough name, but it doesn't have quite the same ring as 'Remodel Bristol East Junction, Now!'...
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« Reply #949 on: November 21, 2018, 09:48:57 »

Three Tracks (in the old Midland Shed), Now!  Wink
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« Reply #950 on: November 21, 2018, 09:50:18 »

But TFFTN makes a nice set of initials. Maybe "Now Tony (Formerly Four Track, Now!)" to make the initials a palindrome, NTFFTN.  Grin
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« Reply #951 on: November 21, 2018, 09:51:57 »

I would have gone for EBN - Electrify Bristol Now!
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« Reply #952 on: November 21, 2018, 10:24:30 »

Three Tracks (in the old Midland Shed), Now!  Wink

Three? Are you planning for a releasing road?

Oh, of course; we'll need to cater for all those kettles they insist on in today's modern railway..! Smiley
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« Reply #953 on: November 21, 2018, 10:27:33 »

Three Tracks (in the old Midland Shed), Now!  Wink

Three? Are you planning for a releasing road?

Oh, of course; we'll need to cater for all those kettles they insist on in today's modern railway..! Smiley


Exactly!  Wink
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« Reply #954 on: November 21, 2018, 10:58:30 »

I think I'll call it "Game Over".

Or...  you could go back to your original user name...  bear with me here!

To get Bristol electrified, they want to remodel Bristol East Junction, which would also involve
Laying new tracks into the Midland Shed, which would also involve
Removing Bristol Panel Box, which would also involve
Transferring signalling from Bristol South to Cogload junction to TVSC» (Thames Valley Signalling Centre - about) or elsewhere, which would also involve
Additional signalling to be introduced to allow more stopping services at BMT & PSN and the re-opened Portishead line, which would also involve
Four Tracks, Now! to be reintroduced from Bristol West Junction to Parson Street Junction!

Go on, you know you want to!  Wink
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« Reply #955 on: November 21, 2018, 11:05:34 »

It seems as if Filton Abbey Wood now has 2 platforms with bi-directional signalling.

While watching the live map at Bristol Temple Meads this morning I noticed 2U12 (0925 St. James Park - Cardiff Central, which left Bristol Temple Meads at 1121hrs) use Platform 2 (not Platform 3 as booked) then cross over to the Newport-bound lines.

2U12 is booked for the Fast lines all the way to Filton Abbey Wood, rather than the relief lines, so clearly Platform 2 at Filton Abbey Wood, once usable only by trains to Bristol Parkway, can now be used for Cardiff-bound trains also. A good idea which should partly remove the need for bus replacement services between Bristol and Severn Tunnel Junction / Newport when works are taking place on Filton Bank because the trains for South Wales can use the neighbouring tracks if they are open.

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I'm surprised that you're surprised! A train on the Up Filton Main can only go via FIT P2, there are no points offering any other choice*. SandTE's pictures show P2 as bidirectional, and from what he has said P1 is signalled for trains to leave in the Up direction after reversing but not to enter from the Up Filton Main.

When you pointed out previously that the WTT (Working Time-Table) was still showing paths and platforms for the old track arrangement, I didn't twig that would include ones that are now physically impossible. But they are all still there - most northbound trains for south Wales are shown using P3, and none using P4. OK, one can understand that if it makes sense not to update the WTT (leaving aside why that might be). But what flummoxes me a bit is that RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) and OTT (Open Train Times website) both show yesterday's 2U12 as actually using P3 (i.e. in bold or as "as booked").

*Strictly there is a crossover to P1, not signalled as noted above, and in any case why would you want to if you're going to south Wales?
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« Reply #956 on: November 21, 2018, 11:58:43 »

Hmm... don't get me wrong, 'Tony' is a decent-enough name, but it doesn't have quite the same ring as 'Remodel Bristol East Junction, Now!'...

I thought the shutdown over Christmas was to remodel the layout a bit.
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« Reply #957 on: November 21, 2018, 14:04:08 »

Hmm... don't get me wrong, 'Tony' is a decent-enough name, but it doesn't have quite the same ring as 'Remodel Bristol East Junction, Now!'...

Sounds to me  more like the alleged  rallying call of the former Prime Minister Sir John Major.

"What do we want?"
"Gradual change!"
"When do we want it?"
"In due course!"
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« Reply #958 on: November 21, 2018, 14:09:02 »

The Peas are nice tonight Norma !..
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« Reply #959 on: November 21, 2018, 19:15:40 »

The Peas are nice tonight Norma !..


Are they tinned ones?.
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