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Author Topic: Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion  (Read 215325 times)
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« Reply #1095 on: February 25, 2020, 08:48:54 pm »

Tunnel? I can't think of any tunnel between BRI and FIT.  Huh
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« Reply #1096 on: February 25, 2020, 09:46:19 pm »

I'm struggling to understand the constraints at either end of Filton Bank. Presumably the works at BEJ will give more routing options and flexibility, but what about the other end? I feel S&TE may have explained all this (possibly more than once) but I've just spent half an hour staring at the track diagrams and I'm not the wiser, and not much better informed...

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Ask away RS.  I'll try to explain it if I can!  Don't forget that when (i.e. if) the new Henbury turnback terminal station ever gets built, that the current FAW terminator trains will probably terminate there instead.
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« Reply #1097 on: February 26, 2020, 10:16:03 am »

Tunnel? I can't think of any tunnel between BRI and FIT.  Huh

I think stuving is referring to the platforms at FIT, and the line through Patchway.
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« Reply #1098 on: February 26, 2020, 11:05:07 am »

I'm struggling to understand the constraints at either end of Filton Bank. Presumably the works at BEJ will give more routing options and flexibility, but what about the other end? I feel S&TE may have explained all this (possibly more than once) but I've just spent half an hour staring at the track diagrams and I'm not the wiser, and not much better informed...

Can anyone help?
Ask away RS.  I'll try to explain it if I can!  Don't forget that when (i.e. if) the new Henbury turnback terminal station ever gets built, that the current FAW terminator trains will probably terminate there instead.

Thanks, S&TE. Unfortunately I can only phrase this rather vaguely, but here are the problems as I understand them:

1. There's a lack of paths from the northbound (up?) reliefs from FIT to BPW since the Dec 2019 timetable. Because of this, cross-city trains which used to terminate at BPW now terminate at FIT. According to our contact in GWR, this is entirely down to timetabling - but it seems to me that timetables reflect capacity, and the increased number of SWML IETs  is clearly using a chunk of that.

2. From May 2020, it looks like some BTH - GCR trains will make calls at LWH and SRD - which is an improvement (though not much for people at PSN and BMT who used to have direct trains).

Will Bristol East help?

I have heard a suggestion (from someone whose opinion I value) that the decision to only build platforms on the reliefs has made the scheme less flexible than it needs to be, and that more crossing points between Bristol East and Parkway would help in terms of recovery and flexibility.

Is there something awry (S&T/S&C-wise) at the BPW end?

What's your view?
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« Reply #1099 on: April 26, 2020, 08:14:21 pm »

There lots of work with ballast and, I think, tamping, happening on Filton Bank today around the Constable Road area. Vehicles and orange jackets with both NR and DB logos.
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« Reply #1100 on: April 26, 2020, 08:26:59 pm »

Relaying two plain lines between Temple Meads and East Junction in preparation for later in the year.

Diagram here

https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1254410150120574978?s=21
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« Reply #1101 on: April 26, 2020, 09:02:44 pm »

Does that mean altering the positioning of those red tracks in a subtle way or simply replacing the physical track? It surely can't be worn out?
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« Reply #1102 on: April 26, 2020, 09:08:29 pm »

Brand new lines according to NR Western

https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1254417449413476352?s=21

Further Tweets show the work being done
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« Reply #1103 on: April 26, 2020, 09:17:17 pm »

Thanks for that information, I saw a yellow works train with an excavator on it lingering for a while between the old Ashley Hill railway station and Narroways Junction in the early afternoon and wondered what it was for.
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« Reply #1104 on: April 26, 2020, 10:48:34 pm »

But work around Constable Road and a digger north of Narroways Junction wouldn't be anything to do with the work bradshaw refers to, which is between BRI and LWH,
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« Reply #1105 on: April 27, 2020, 08:47:19 am »

They were also doing some drainage work, not sure if that matches the place.

“Further up the line towards Bristol Parkway we're working on the Filton Bank - improving drainage at Horfield/Lockleaze & nr Filton Abbey Wood“

https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1254417911424471040?s=21
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« Reply #1106 on: April 27, 2020, 09:00:02 am »

They were also doing some drainage work, not sure if that matches the place.

“Further up the line towards Bristol Parkway we're working on the Filton Bank - improving drainage at Horfield/Lockleaze & nr Filton Abbey Wood“

https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1254417911424471040?s=21
That's what I saw. Same place, same view!
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« Reply #1107 on: April 27, 2020, 11:16:16 am »

They were also doing some drainage work, not sure if that matches the place.

“Further up the line towards Bristol Parkway we're working on the Filton Bank - improving drainage at Horfield/Lockleaze & nr Filton Abbey Wood“

https://twitter.com/networkrailwest/status/1254417911424471040?s=21
That's what I saw. Same place, same view!

Yes, that will be what I got a glimpse of too. I makes me wonder if the current crisis has set back NRs present work schedule that much round here, not forgetting that they seem to have completed work on the Severn Tunnel too.
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