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« on: January 23, 2014, 17:56:21 »

The Victoria Line currently has no service between Warren Street and Brixton due to flooding at Victoria.

Well, that is half the story.

What actually happened is cement was accidentally poured into the control room at Victoria.  Various photographs available by searching "Victoria Line" on Twitter.
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2014, 18:15:07 »

ooooooooooooooo nasty http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/23/set-in-stone-victoria-line-closed-after-control-room-is-flooded-with-fast-setting-concrete-4275088/
That really is going to take some clearing up ................... hope its not quick drying cement
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2014, 18:37:30 »

That really is going to take some clearing up ................... hope its not quick drying cement

Surely all cement and concrete is quick-drying if you are desperately trying to shovel it out of a control room?
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 18:59:25 »

Police have released an image of the builders responsible:

http://goo.gl/DYicOC
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 19:01:12 »

Has cement accidentally entered tube control rooms before, or are we talking genuine one-off here?
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 20:05:56 »

More pictures here:
http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011/you-wont-believe-why-the-victoria-line-is-currently
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 20:37:31 »

Has cement accidentally entered tube control rooms before, or are we talking genuine one-off here?
There is a lot of building work being done outside Victoria station to make the Underground concourse larger, there was a large augur bore machine there last Friday when I went one of my contractors offices (not related to the Victoria station works)

Looks like a signalling equipment room, the racks look like signalling relays
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 10:44:03 »

Wow that's going to take some clearing!

Cock up of the Century so far?
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2014, 11:47:01 »

This is not really funny at all.  If a signalling relay had been held falsely operated, even for a very short period of time, then the consequences could have been very serious indeed  Angry Angry
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2014, 11:50:06 »

I was wondering that.  Things are usually designed to "fail safe" but I guess concrete closing the contacts is not something that is designed for.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2014, 13:43:11 »

Its more to do with wet concrete being very conductive.  In the photographs you can see wiring terminals covered and the possibility of electrical shorts was very high.  Most signalling relays are sealed so the chances of the concrete entering them would have been most unlikely.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2014, 15:33:54 »

Picked this up from the Telegraph's website

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/10594718/Why-sugar-helped-remove-Victoria-Line-concrete-flood.html

Seems someone thought fast! Interesting tip re sugar and cement.

After picture looks pretty good to me. According to TFL (Transport for London) there is currently a good sevice on the Vicotria Line. Somebody worked fast to get the testing done and the trains runnng.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2014, 16:29:41 »

That's pretty impressive!
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2014, 19:17:23 »

Full credit to the LU Signalling Techs and all the other staff involved in the clear up.

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2014, 20:01:49 »

.........hey ET not too much praise for the S&T (Signalling and Telegraph) please.  We usually get accused of being 'Sick and Tired' and drinking too much tea (old railway joke) Cheesy Roll Eyes

Nevertheless a remarkable recovery job in such a short time.
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