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Author Topic: Weather disruption caused in 2014, and how to prevent it happening again - ongoing discussion  (Read 416876 times)
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« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2014, 19:56:31 »

To complete my journey report, I decided to return on 1C87 the 1448 ex PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains), and not bother waiting for the 1703 (and missed meeting thetrout - sorry). On time arrival at EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains).  First nearly empty, and your reporter overdosed on cake & shortbread due to repeated trolley passing! Cheated again and got collected in Exeter.  weather down here is appalling, so no wonder NR» (Network Rail - home page) have abandoned work at Dawlish.
BTW (by the way), 1C87 not booked to stop at Westbury, but ran through the station rather than the avoiding line - points failure again?? (see my earlier topic about Totnes - is it me?!)
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« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2014, 22:49:15 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) have reported that part of the sea wall has been washed away - RailUK forum rumours it to be a 30-40ft stretch. Sounds like it could be well past Friday before trains are running again.
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« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2014, 22:51:16 »

Also now reports that part of the line has been washed away between St Erth and Penzance.
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« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2014, 23:03:47 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) have reported that part of the sea wall has been washed away - RailUK forum rumours it to be a 30-40ft stretch. Sounds like it could be well past Friday before trains are running again.

Internal information from Network Rail is saying the same. Sea wall washed away and track suspended in the air.

Also hearing via Facebook that the down platform at Dawlish has collapsed.
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« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2014, 23:10:17 »

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=1699630&postcount=815

Looks pretty bad
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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2014, 23:45:49 »

People are being evacuated from sea front properties in Dawlish.
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« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2014, 03:29:43 »

Latest information from FGW (First Great Western):

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Strong winds and adverse weather conditions in the Devon & Cornwall areas overnight have caused severe disruption to both road and rail infrastructure. Train services on Wednesday morning between Newton Abbot and Penzance, including all branch lines, are likely to be severely disrupted until daylight inspections of all routes have been made. In addition, road conditions are likely to be hazardous and replacement road transport is not being operated. Passengers are advised NOT to attempt to travel on routes between Exeter St David's and Penzance during this morning until in has been confirmed that services have resumed.
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« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2014, 06:22:17 »

I see reference to "total collapse" of Dawlish down platform. Has the whole lot gone, and is the down platform building still intact?
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« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2014, 09:38:57 »

The damage looks pretty epic:
https://twitter.com/richardwestcott/status/430991304823427072/photo/1

NOW is it time to reconsider an alternative inland route?!
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« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2014, 10:02:22 »

Another tweeted photo here: https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/431003733590151168/photo/1
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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2014, 10:07:03 »

NOW is it time to reconsider an alternative inland route?!

As I said on the Whiteball Tunnel thread...
What with Whiteball and Dawlish at the moment, I can almost hear the computerised station announcer at Plymouth saying "the train now standing at platform 3 is the 10:30 to London Waterloo, calling at Tavistock, Okehampton, Exeter Central, Yeovil Junction, Salisbury and London Waterloo"..... if only!
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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2014, 10:09:54 »

The clearest picture I have seen so far on Twitter

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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2014, 10:24:14 »

I reckon there's at least a fortnight's repair work - with the proviso of no further storms (haha!)

That sea wall will need reinstating with piling before the track can be restored.
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« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2014, 10:30:54 »

The damage looks pretty epic:
https://twitter.com/richardwestcott/status/430991304823427072/photo/1

NOW is it time to reconsider an alternative inland route?!

Let us not be too hasty.
It might however be nearly time to consider appointing a commitee, to consider calling a meeting, to call for more studies.
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« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2014, 10:32:28 »

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I reckon there's at least a fortnight's repair work - with the proviso of no further storms (haha!)

That sea wall will need reinstating with piling before the track can be restored.

A fortnight? That would be some going! Depending on how long these storms go on for (BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) Weather speculating that could be at least a fortnight), I would hazard a guess that it might even be as far as April before full service is resumed - remember that what is pictured is only one stretch that has been damaged. And there could well be more stretches of sea wall that are ready to collapse that we just don't know about yet. Thankfully it's a late-ish Easter this year, so hopefully it will all be forgotten about by then.
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