Parking Offence at Twyford Station

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Re: parking offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2014, 18:39:19 »

Quote from: jacquio on May 12, 2014, 16:17:50

Yet again I have received a parking offence notice stating that I parked in a restricted area. Nothing to say that it was restricted. Paired my parking ticket for the day. Have now ignored two notices from Apocoa. What do you think I should do. Carry on ignoring them?

Thanks for posting that latest update on your parking experiences, jacquio! Roll Eyes

Purely in the interests of continuity, I've now merged a previous topic into this one - just so that we can all see what appears to be an ongoing saga developing. That's in no way any criticism - I merely want to provide our readers with a concise story here! Wink

I'd also like to thank Ollie for his help with this one - I've got into the habit of referring to him as 'the excellent Ollie' for a very good reason. Lips sealed


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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2014, 22:20:19 »

A few pics for your viewing pleasure

In the pic with the Henley train in background, you will notice a sign attached to the fence. There are several of these types of sign along the length of the fence to the taxi office.


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jacquio

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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2014, 09:44:57 »

I parked in the big car park at the back. Where I parked there was no indication that it was restricted.


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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2014, 02:34:25 »

Ooh they cant use railway byelaw 14 on you neither as its not stated on any of the attached photos.


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Andrew1939 from West Oxon

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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2014, 09:38:32 »

It would appear that the use of the ambiguous term "parking permit holders only" is widely used by APCOA^▸ . The scecond photo down does show one sign as parking for season ticket holders only and that in my view is clear but, what does "parking permit holders only" mean? It is surprising that this question has not arisen before.


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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2014, 10:31:10 »

Quote from: SDS on May 16, 2014, 02:34:25

Ooh they cant use railway byelaw 14 on you neither as its not stated on any of the attached photos.

To enforce a Byelaw, you only need to state it in "general terms". For example, I have never seen a No Smoking sign followed by a warning that to do so is a breach of Byelaw 3.

The exception with Byelaw 14 is that you must mention the Byelaw itself for the purpose of clamping or removal. Now as far as I know, nobody is saying their car has been clamped or towed away at Twyford.


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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2014, 14:47:11 »

I think you do need to mention somewhere in the terms and conditions that the area is covered by Byelaw 14. EastCoast have spent a lot of money putting up "This area is covered by Byelaw 14" all over Peterborough Station, why would they waste money if that if they didn't need to?


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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2014, 15:13:40 »

Well if East Coast want to have the option of clamping or removing cars then they have to warn of Byelaw 14. Let's be thankful that FGW^▸ and Apcoa are happy issuing just tickets rather than towing away vehicles.


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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2014, 23:45:30 »

Quote from: Network SouthEast on May 16, 2014, 15:13:40

But isnt clamping on private land now illegal?


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Re: Parking Offence at Twyford Station

« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2014, 01:50:11 »

Section 56 and Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 bans the use of clamps on private land. However:-

Any land which already has statutory controls in relation to the parking of vehicles (such as byelaws applying to airports, ports and some railway station car parks) is excluded from POFA 2012.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/9155/guidance-unpaid-parking-charges.pdf


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