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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2008, 09:02:47 »

Those last three possessions I've just been forwarded an update on and possession two and three are the preliminary dates for when the loop will go in.
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« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2008, 11:39:38 »

Rightyho, possessions for the Falmouth Docks branch are showing as follows:

06/04/08 0001 - 1105 SUN - S&C (Settle and Carlisle ) Retimber (300m 52ch and 301m 2ch), Rail Adjusting (301m 25ch and 312m 64ch), Remove Rail Defects (301m 25ch and 313m 4ch), Patrolling (301m 25ch and 312m 46ch) & Structures Work (309m 62ch and 310m 47ch)
13/04/08 0600 - 1105 SUN - Patrolling (301m 25ch and 312m 46ch)
20/04/08 0600 - 1105 SUN - Patrolling (301m 25ch and 312m 46ch)
17/08/08 0500 - 1000 SUN - Patrolling (301m 25ch and 312m 46ch)
24/08/08 0500 - 1000 SUN - Patrolling (301m 25ch and 312m 46ch)
31/08/08 0500 - 1000 SUN - Patrolling (301m 25ch and 312m 46ch)
07/09/08 0500 - 1000 SUN - Patrolling (301m 25ch and 312m 46ch)
13/10/08 0600 MON THRU TO 17/10/08 1600 FRI - Showing as critical maintenance on entire line, and track renewals at Ponsanooth
20/10/08 0600 MON THRU TO 24/10/08 1600 FRI - As above.
03/11/08 0600 MON THRU TO 07/11/08 1600 FRI - As above.



Last three possessions are for Amey Colas relaying on the branch.  Unlikely that the other work will be done by then.
Seems unusual to be shut for 3 weeks?
Those last three possessions I've just been forwarded an update on and possession two and three are the preliminary dates for when the loop will go in.


What 3 weeks of Enginering works for what?
The loop can be put in whilst other work takes place IF somebody did their homework.
If would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.
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« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2008, 14:17:07 »

Health and Safety rules I'm guessing...

(posting on board a unrefurbished Mk3 HST (High Speed Train) on NXEC (National Express East Coast) to Newcastle)
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« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2008, 21:26:38 »

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It would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.

Even though there were not the hoops to jump through then as there are today, it would have been impossible to install and test the signalling equipment in one weekend.  S&T (Signalling and Telegraph) Engineers are good but we're not miracle workers! P-Way is generally the 'easier'  part of a scheme like this and could have,and presumably will be, done in one weekend.  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2008, 23:49:38 »



What 3 weeks of Enginering works for what?
The loop can be put in whilst other work takes place IF somebody did their homework.
If would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.

There is other relaying going on aswell.
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« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2008, 18:34:13 »



What 3 weeks of Enginering works for what?
The loop can be put in whilst other work takes place IF somebody did their homework.
If would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.

There is other relaying going on aswell.

Aye, there is other engineering work going on but if it is organised correctly you can move relay equipment in and have several relaying sites ALL working at once on a branch line.
 
Simple Maths, 1 work site  equals 3 weeks work
Then             3 work sites equals 1 weeks work.
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« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2008, 18:40:01 »



What 3 weeks of Enginering works for what?
The loop can be put in whilst other work takes place IF somebody did their homework.
If would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.

There is other relaying going on aswell.

Aye, there is other engineering work going on but if it is organised correctly you can move relay equipment in and have several relaying sites ALL working at once on a branch line.
 
Simple Maths, 1 work site  equals 3 weeks work
Then             3 work sites equals 1 weeks work.
But what if ther is three weeks of work on one site?
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« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2008, 18:46:36 »



What 3 weeks of Enginering works for what?
The loop can be put in whilst other work takes place IF somebody did their homework.
If would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.

There is other relaying going on aswell.

Aye, there is other engineering work going on but if it is organised correctly you can move relay equipment in and have several relaying sites ALL working at once on a branch line.
 
Simple Maths, 1 work site  equals 3 weeks work
Then             3 work sites equals 1 weeks work.
But what if ther is three weeks of work on one site?

Good point but there are multiple work areas booked for the Falmouth Branch.

And what sort of Branch line work will be likely to take 3 weeks at 1 location?
It's possible to install a Brand new viaduct on a line with just a weekend closure! (After building the new next to the old.)
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2008, 18:48:56 »



What 3 weeks of Enginering works for what?
The loop can be put in whilst other work takes place IF somebody did their homework.
If would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.

There is other relaying going on aswell.

Aye, there is other engineering work going on but if it is organised correctly you can move relay equipment in and have several relaying sites ALL working at once on a branch line.
 
Simple Maths, 1 work site  equals 3 weeks work
Then             3 work sites equals 1 weeks work.
But what if there is three weeks of work on one site?

Good point but there are multiple work areas booked for the Falmouth Branch.

And what sort of Branch line work will be likely to take 3 weeks at 1 location?
It's possible to install a Brand new viaduct on a line with just a weekend closure! (After building the new next to the old.)
Installing a some major new trackwork and buildings, rerouting the rails could take a long time.
As for a weekend for a new viaduct, I wouldn't travel on that branch again. Tongue
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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2008, 22:30:27 »



What 3 weeks of Enginering works for what?
The loop can be put in whilst other work takes place IF somebody did their homework.
If would haven taken BR (British Rail(ways)) a WEEKEND to install a loop at Penryn and a second weekend to install and test all Signal and point work ready to commence the new operation.

There is other relaying going on aswell.

Aye, there is other engineering work going on but if it is organised correctly you can move relay equipment in and have several relaying sites ALL working at once on a branch line.
 
Simple Maths, 1 work site  equals 3 weeks work
Then             3 work sites equals 1 weeks work.
There's rerailing going on, the new loop, rebuilding the platform, renewals i.e. CWR (Continuously Welded Rail) replacing jointy track (at last!!!) so yes there is 3 weeks work going on, the Falmouth branch always seems to have loads of work done during blockades.
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« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2008, 08:58:10 »

What does the platform rebuilding entail, Vacman? Extension (it's already pretty long, isn't it?) and/or resurfacing the part that has not been used for a while?

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« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2008, 19:30:54 »

The track level at the Truro end has been raised about 1 1/2 feet so the platform will have to be heightened, and general resurfacing which will have to be done during a possession.
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« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2008, 21:05:35 »

anybody noticed the new addition in Penryn station? never thought i'd see the day!
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« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2008, 21:41:49 »

anybody noticed the new addition in Penryn station? never thought i'd see the day!
I'm due a trip to Falmouth  Cool
Still don't understand why the loop isn't at Perranwell.
I wonder how many locals are aware of the service to come - the Packet doesn't appear to be covering it. 
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« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2008, 22:41:35 »

anybody noticed the new addition in Penryn station? never thought i'd see the day!
I'm due a trip to Falmouth  Cool
Still don't understand why the loop isn't at Perranwell.
I wonder how many locals are aware of the service to come - the Packet doesn't appear to be covering it. 
It's not at perranwell because it's not in the middle time-wise and with it being at Penryn the "recovery" time will be at Falmouth allowing a margin at Truro for waiting for connections or being delayed by main line trains.
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