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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2014, 08:20:03 »

Couldn't they have stuck him in a helicopter? Plenty of landing space at both ends!
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2014, 08:34:20 »

Although there were hold ups on the A303 yesterday, I doubt it was to do with POTUS (President Of The United States) and more to do with the fact it was a Friday afternoon. For a start, a friend of mine saw (and got some pictures too) the cavalcade of vehicles and it's route avoided the A303.
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2014, 22:09:51 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Barack Obama in Stonehenge visit on return from Nato summit

US President Barack Obama paid a visit to Stonehenge on his return home from the Nato summit in Newport.

The White House said the presidential helicopter Marine One stopped at Boscombe Down Airbase, Wiltshire, before his motorcade drove to the ancient monument. The president was then given a guided tour by curator Heather Sebire.

English Heritage, which manages the site, said it was "an honour" to host the president. General manager of Stonehenge, Kate Davies, said: "His office told us the president was very interested to see the iconic monument for himself. "Every day people from all over the world make the trip to the ancient stones but this visit was a particularly special one."

Ms Sebire said Mr Obama "was fascinated by the story of the stones, what we know about them and the mysteries that have yet to be solved".


The president reportedly commented that he had "knocked this off my bucket list"


He was given a personal tour of the site by Heather Sebire from English Heritage


Mr Obama stopped to chat with a local family during his visit

She went on: "He described the atmosphere around the stones as 'really special' and his visit to Stonehenge as 'a highlight of my tour'. It was a beautiful still evening and it was a privilege to show the US president around this unique monument which continues to inspire and intrigue people."

Mr Obama described seeing the monument as "cool" and said it was something he could tick off his "bucket list". He also chatted briefly to a local family and posed for photos.

Janice Raffle, who lives near Stonehenge, had come down to the monument with her husband and three sons after hearing Mr Obama was there. She said: "We had a brief tete a tete across the barbed wire. He was really a sweetie. He asked all our names and he was commenting on the fresh air and the beautiful countryside. He also said that I was quite outnumbered because I have three little boys as well as my husband and there was a bit of banter between the boys saying boys are best and he said well I don't know if I agree with that."
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2014, 11:02:09 »

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Dawlish rail line future announcement 'imminent' William Hague tells House of Commons

The Government will ^shortly^ announce whether to fund an additional rail line to the vulnerable coastal link at Dawlish that collapsed into the sea earlier this year, the House of Commons was told yesterday, Friday.

Leader of the House of Commons William Hague confirmed the Department for Transport will reveal its plans imminently after being pressed for a debate on the options mapped out by rail bosses Network Rail.

This summer, the Government published the report that detailed seven alternative routes that would cost between ^400 million and ^3 billion.

The quango said that even in the best-case scenario the financial case for each new route remains ^unpromising, with each one still offering poor value for money^.

It could therefore mean ministers opt to shore-up the existing line, however critics say the analysis has so far failed take into account the full economic impact of a new line.

During Business of the House Questions in the Commons, Oliver Colvile, Conservative MP (Member of Parliament) for Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport, said: ^Earlier this year, the railway line at Dawlish was swept away, completely cutting off Plymouth, west Devon and Cornwall from the rest of the country^s rail network.

^Earlier this summer, Network Rail published a report suggesting alternative routes. Will the Government find time either for the Secretary of State for Transport to make a statement, or for us to have a proper debate on the matter, because it is incredibly important to the South West and to my constituents?^

Mr Hague responded: ^That issue is of massive importance to your constituents.

^As he has said, Network Rail^s study considers alternative options for providing a long-term, resilient route west of Exeter, including reopening alignments, making the existing route more resilient and maintaining rail connectivity to coastal communities.

^The Secretary of State will announce his findings on the study shortly, so I ask you to await that announcement.^
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2014, 15:47:18 »

The Express & Error say it "could" be ^3bn for rail.

But it won't be, it will be the cheapest, strengthen the existing line option.

Especially now that the latest polls put the Yes campaign ahead in the Scottish Referendum and the Coalition will suddenly announce millions, nay, billions of pounds of new projects and spending for north of the border.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2014, 18:29:47 »

Only if there's a 'no' vote, but that is looking more unlikely the closer we get. So I doubt it...
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2014, 19:20:30 »

Only if there's a 'no' vote, but that is looking more unlikely the closer we get. So I doubt it...

Very interesting metric if there's a yes vote, ... 59 less MPs (Member of Parliament) at Westminster - minus 40 Labour, 11 Lib Dem and 1 Conservative - should help the Conservatives at the next election.  But of course there's UKIP to consider - or would they have a name change in the UK (United Kingdom) had been broken up?
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2014, 19:49:15 »

That all depends on whether the EU» (European Union - about) grant Scotland membership. Guess you need to ask the Spanish!
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2014, 17:11:16 »

Danny Alexander speaks - but doesn't say much

http://www.itv.com/news/west/update/2014-11-04/danny-alexander-hints-that-a303-upgrade-on-the-cards/
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2014, 03:31:48 »


On rail, I heard a bit of "but look how quickly Network Rail got the Dawlish line re-opened" when asked about Okehampton.   Perhaps 2 months of closure is acceptable from time to time in the grand scheme of things.  Two months, six months ago looks less that two months while it's happening, it will look less still more than a year after (e.g. next May) ...
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2014, 08:02:48 »

This is a bit more promising regarding rail investment through the Chancellor's December statement - fingers crossed!

http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/South-West-transport-8216-priority-8217-Treasury/story-24112225-detail/story.html
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2014, 09:55:21 »

It won't leak yet - that's hearsay/conjecture.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2014, 10:14:27 »

Apparently, one of the massive documents I haven't read (the Western Route Study*), suggests Exeter - Newton Abbot will need 4 tracks in the long term. If so, perhaps they should do all of the following:

  • Build the Okehampton route (2-tracks, year-round local service)
  • Strengthen Dawlish (2-tracks, year-round local service)
  • Build one of the new Dawlish avoiding lines (2-tracks, year-round INTERCITY service)
The lower two options provide the four tracks between Exeter and Newton Abbot but if one of those routes is closed you still effectively have four tracks as you can divert some of the traffic via Okehampton. Plus, if a closure effects both routes between Exeter and Newton Abbot you can still divert via Okehampton to keep Plymouth and Cornwall connected to the rest of the Network Rail network.

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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2014, 10:21:11 »

isn't that 4 tracks by 2040-something?....
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2014, 16:51:42 »

2043 - I'll be ninety five!
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