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« on: September 08, 2014, 02:51:44 pm »

Anyone got it? :-)

http://www.btp.presscentre.com/Media-Releases/Police-appeal-to-rail-enthusiasts-to-help-recover-locomotive-nameplate-Wembey-London-29bd.aspx
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 04:26:54 pm »

The theft of a nameplate is completely wrong ... and I shouldn't really add any "lighter side" comment to it.

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DC Ganly said: "This is not a museum piece but important railway equipment, which should be put back where it belongs, on the side of this train."

Yeah, right ... I expect that 67 013 painted on the side is the important railway "equipment / information", and not the brass plate with the words "Dyfrbont Pontcysyllte" on it.

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The press release from the British Transport Police has attached images, and the following statement:

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Please find attached image(s). They are to be used only in relation to this case/incident and must not be distributed, reproduced, or published in any form of media, electronic or otherwise other than for this purpose. As publishers, it is your responsibility to check with the courts whether any restrictions have been imposed that may affect the reporting of legal proceedings. You are also reminded of your obligations under the Contempt of Court Act 1981. Under no circumstances will BTP accept liability if the image(s) are distributed, reproduced or published in any form of media, electronic or otherwise, other than for the above purpose. Permission to reproduce this image is given for 1 month only from today^s date.

As a forum, we're usually happy to help the police in tracing people or goods by giving publicity to their press releases, and in the past we have carried pictures here.   However, paragraphs such as the above weren't on the earlier press releases, and with such changes it has become much harder for our volunteer administrators / moderators to be sure that our content is, and remains, legal.  As a result, you (forum members) may see less pictures on these "help the police" threads in the future ... for the current thread (for example),  I'm sure you can imagine a piece of brass with "Dyfrbont Pontcysyllte" written on it ... and we really don't want the police sending us emails in a month's time demanding we take down a picture.   "Would that happen?" you may ask.  It has happened ... and short of a month too, because the police had found their man ...
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 07:38:12 pm »

Guess BTP are getting narked off at their pathetic photography being shown up.

I'm also wondering as it's an image published by a crown orginisation that Crown Coypright would apply thus fair usage can apply.

Anyway I'm not a lawyer.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 09:56:15 pm »

The two images provided as part of that British Transport Police press release are in fact marked "^ Chiltern Railways".

To assist the BTP in this appeal, so far as I am able within the restrictions they have imposed, I will now reproduce their entire item here.  I will then remove it from this topic in one month's time - or possibly sooner, if BTP trace the stolen item in the interim.

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08/09/2014 09:29:00
Police appeal to rail enthusiasts to help recover locomotive nameplate Wembey, London

Police are hoping rail enthusiasts will help them recover a valuable nameplate stolen from a Chiltern Railways train in north-west London.

Detectives have launched an investigation into the theft from a depot in Wembley, which is believed to have taken place late on Thursday, 28 August.

Detective Constable Mike Ganly, leading the investigation, said: ^The distinctive brass nameplate was stolen at some point on Thursday evening while the engine was stored at the depot. This was reported later during a routine inspection by the driver. I believe an angle-grinder, or other cutting equipment, was used to remove the nameplate."

Officers have been pursuing several lines of enquiry, including analysing CCTV footage from the depot and taking witness statements. They are now appealing directly to those with a passion for railway memorabilia to help recover the item which measures three feet by eight inches.

DC Ganly added: ^Such items are of particular value to collectors of railway memorabilia. This item is likely to have been stolen to order or to be re-sold on the black market. I would therefore appeal directly to genuine collectors to be on the look-out for this nameplate. They should get in touch if they are offered it for sale, or have any further information of its whereabouts."

The plate had Dyfrbont Pontcysyllte written on it.

Dave Penney, Engineering Director at Chiltern Railways said: ^This is a valuable piece of railway equipment. We are supporting the BTP with their investigations so that the culprits are caught as soon as possible."^

DC Ganly said: ^This is not a museum piece but important railway equipment, which should be put back where it belongs, on the side of this train."

Anyone with information is asked to contact British Transport Police on 0800 40 50 40, or text 61016, quoting reference ESUB/B9 of 05/09/2014. Information can also be passed anonymously to the independent charity Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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Please find attached image(s). They are to be used only in relation to this case/incident and must not be distributed, reproduced, or published in any form of media, electronic or otherwise other than for this purpose. As publishers, it is your responsibility to check with the courts whether any restrictions have been imposed that may affect the reporting of legal proceedings. You are also reminded of your obligations under the Contempt of Court Act 1981. Under no circumstances will BTP accept liability if the image(s) are distributed, reproduced or published in any form of media, electronic or otherwise, other than for the above purpose. Permission to reproduce this image is given for 1 month only from today's date.

In their heading, by the way, I think BTP mean 'Wembley'.  Roll Eyes





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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 10:39:14 pm »

Yeah, right ... I expect that 67 013 painted on the side is the important railway "equipment / information", and not the brass plate with the words "Dyfrbont Pontcysyllte" on it.

I came back to this one which confirms how critical a nameplate is:

http://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/news/we-auction-class-67-locomotive-nameplates-for-our-charities-year?

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We are giving members of the public the chance to snap up a piece of railway history by auctioning off four Class 67 name plates.

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Up for auction are ... and 'Dyfrbont Pontcysyllte'.

Sorry - a three month old page I have just come across; too late for our members to bid.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2015, 10:01:07 am »

As an aside, is it possible to remove the wacky strings of ^ by cutting and pasting via Notepad (other text editors are available)?

Apologies - just realised these are old posts. I'd delete this if I could.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2015, 06:11:15 pm »

I've now (rather laboriously!) removed all of those rogue characters from my previous post, in the interests of clarity. CfN.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2015, 07:25:53 pm »

I've now (rather laboriously!) removed all of those rogue characters from my previous post, in the interests of clarity. CfN.  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2015, 08:13:48 pm »

I've now (rather laboriously!) removed all of those rogue characters from my previous post, in the interests of clarity. CfN.  Roll Eyes

Sorry Chris, I seem to be adding to your workload today. Your efforts are appreciated!  Cool

If you're looking for something else to do, my lawn could really do with a cut...

Very much aware of the rogue characters ... getting higher up my list as they breed every time we have a database issue.  However, not going to risk doing anything without time to concentrate, which I won't have until the weekend at least.  In Leeds next week which might be a bit boring of an evening  Grin
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