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« Reply #555 on: September 28, 2022, 11:04:15 am »

Very familiar ...

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11:32 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 13:09

Facilities on the 11:32 London Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads due 13:09.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9.

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We're sorry for any changes this brings to your travel plans today.

Now a 9-car.  Also very familiar…

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:W43450/2022-09-28/detailed#allox_id=0
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« Reply #556 on: September 28, 2022, 03:30:43 pm »

I remain very doubtful as to the adequacy of the total available IET (Intercity Express Train) fleet to run the existing timetable reliably with full length trains, and even more doubtful about being able to operate extra services.

Despite all the previous promises we still see regular short formations.

Downgrading Cardiff services to class 387 or similar units will free up some IETs but enough ?

IETs were allegedly inter city trains, though many considered them a backward step. 387s and similar units are suburban trains and were never even claimed to be inter city, yet are becoming the norm on former inter city routes. Or is Cardiff now a suburb ?

 And what happened to the original plan that IETs could be converted to electric trains by removing all but one engine ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #557 on: September 28, 2022, 04:32:02 pm »

And what happened to the original plan that IETs (Intercity Express Train) could be converted to electric trains by removing all but one engine ?

Was it ever a ‘plan’ or just a statement of fact (that still stands) should an appropriate amount of the routes they serve become electrified? 

Realistically that would need to be Cardiff to Swansea and Chippenham/Bristol Parkway to Bristol Temple Meads at the very least.
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« Reply #558 on: September 28, 2022, 10:21:03 pm »

Yesterday, several members attended GWR (Great Western Railway)'s central area timetable briefing and it was confirmed that IETs (Intercity Express Train) will take over 4 or 5 diagrams for Cardiff to Penzance services from December, retiring Castles.

What is the rationale behind this decision? Seems bonkers to me.

In June I went for a trip on one of the Castle sets and thought it was brilliant. They have been refurbished really well and it will be a retrograde step to retire (and presumably scrap) them.
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« Reply #559 on: September 28, 2022, 10:38:31 pm »

Against the alternatives, Castle Class sets are expensive to run and expensive to maintain. That'll be the rationale for retiring what was always meant as a stop gap.

Not a retrograde step. Retrograde would be replacing them with something older. I love HSTs (High Speed Train) as much as the next enthusiast, but venerable doesn't necessarily equal practical or logical.
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« Reply #560 on: September 29, 2022, 08:11:27 am »

Plans for this have been in the pipeline since the report on the HST (High Speed Train) derailment at Carmont was published.
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