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« Reply #870 on: August 11, 2015, 09:04:04 »

Totally agree. Full compensation should be payable to all travellers, including season ticket holders who get a very rough deal at the moment.
I already plan to raise this at the meet the manager session on Thursday, where I was going to enquire why 28th December wasn't void when fgw ran nothing at all at any time.

May be worth asking how much compensation FGW (First Great Western) received/will receive from Network Rail (NR» (Network Rail - home page))?

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« Reply #871 on: August 13, 2015, 18:13:41 »

So it was Meet the Manager session this morning. I had a chat with some representatives about a number of issues including void days and left still unclear/fobbed off.
Did anyone else get any useful information?
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« Reply #872 on: August 13, 2015, 18:45:08 »

Quote from this morning "turbos are much more reliable than hst's which is why they rarely break down". Cue cancellation of the 18.18 turbo and 1000 Maidenhead passengers squeezing on to the 18.42 3 carriage to Bourne end via Slough and magical 20min detour that no one understands.
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« Reply #873 on: August 13, 2015, 21:28:33 »

So it was Meet the Manager session this morning. I had a chat with some representatives about a number of issues including void days and left still unclear/fobbed off.
Did anyone else get any useful information?

I got told that FGW (First Great Western) get negative publicity and public criticism if they declare a void day as this is then excluded from their PPM(resolve) performance measures which impacts season ticket discounts. I was told they were damned if they do and damned if they don't.

I was also told that in the past that FGW had been too generous in declaring void days, and that they have since made a corporate decision to assess the criteria rather more strictly. The manager wasn't able to explain what these criteria actually are, and agreed with me that these need to be better publicised. Indeed I was told they would pursue this with their web team as a high priority.

On last Friday, she said that disruption did not impact enough of the day to be declared void. The manager I was speaking with didn't know the reasons for the 28th December but they promised they would get back to me with an explanation and took my email.

All in all, whilst I didn't really come away particularly convinced by any of this, I did get the impression that some of my points about the lack of transparency in the way void days are declared was at least heard with a degree of sympathy. They also admitted that this issue had been raised by a number of other people that morning.

If I ever hear anything more I'll let you know.
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« Reply #874 on: August 13, 2015, 21:33:24 »

Andrew, thank you for an informative first post.  We will wait with interest to see if you hear anymore, in the meantime may I welcome you to the Coffee Shop?

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« Reply #875 on: August 13, 2015, 21:56:11 »

Quote from this morning "turbos are much more reliable than hst's which is why they rarely break down". Cue cancellation of the 18.18 turbo.

I see that whilst the 18:18 was cancelled due to a fault, the men with spanners came out, not only got it fixed but managed to upgrade it's performance rather impressively...
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O18385/2015/08/13/advanced
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« Reply #876 on: August 14, 2015, 08:46:45 »

Quote from this morning "turbos are much more reliable than hst's which is why they rarely break down". Cue cancellation of the 18.18 turbo.

I see that whilst the 18:18 was cancelled due to a fault, the men with spanners came out, not only got it fixed but managed to upgrade it's performance rather impressively...
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O18385/2015/08/13/advanced

 Shocked Shocked They must have fitted extra turbos, a lot of intercooling and may be NOx 201 mph ..................... impressive  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #877 on: August 14, 2015, 12:22:24 »

I'm confused about why taking 1hr 21mins to go to Oxford non stop is impressive? Smiley
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« Reply #878 on: August 14, 2015, 15:14:17 »

I'm confused about why taking 1hr 21mins to go to Oxford non stop is impressive? Smiley
Have a look at the 'timed for' speed in the header of the schedule Cheesy
There seems to be a problem with this for quite a few schedules in RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) at present .
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« Reply #879 on: August 14, 2015, 16:23:42 »

So it was Meet the Manager session this morning. I had a chat with some representatives about a number of issues including void days and left still unclear/fobbed off.
Did anyone else get any useful information?

On last Friday, she said that disruption did not impact enough of the day to be declared void. The manager I was speaking with didn't know the reasons for the 28th December but they promised they would get back to me with an explanation and took my email.


So being a couple of hours late, lots of uncertainty, a missed appointment and the cost of a taxi from High Wycombe to Twyford isn't enough of an impact? And judging by the number of people at Paddington and Marylebone I don't think I was alone in this.

Never mind the inability to provide accurate information about an incident - actually its more false information as according to Journey check on the day my train was on time until not long before its departure.

Deep breaths...
 
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« Reply #880 on: August 14, 2015, 18:01:00 »

Thanks Andrew for your reply and again, welcome to the forum. What you received as feedback was very similar to what I was told. The hilarity of FGW (First Great Western)'s responses was mind blowing:
- when I asked why last Friday wasn't a void day I was told that it didn't affect enough of the day to count.
- so I asked why Dec 27th wasn't a void day when FGW ran nothing, and I was told that because it was a Saturday it didn't count because void days are used when they affect commuters and rush hour services.
- "like on Friday, when it was at rush hour?" I queried.
- no response of any substance other than "we'll get accused of manipulating figures"

Yeah right. Cheating liars.

 I asked Jo Elliott why I had to write to the ceo to get a correct answer on obtaining refunds for First Class standing journeys, having had 4 incorrect letters from Customer Service. I put it to her that misinformation was deliberately circulated to fob passengers off - an accusation she definitely didn't like. So it's just ineptitude and not malicious. You heard it here first.
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« Reply #881 on: August 14, 2015, 18:15:20 »

I'm confused about why taking 1hr 21mins to go to Oxford non stop is impressive? Smiley
Have a look at the 'timed for' speed in the header of the schedule Cheesy
There seems to be a problem with this for quite a few schedules in RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) at present .

Ha, oops, didn't spot that one!
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« Reply #882 on: August 17, 2015, 16:31:01 »

Does anyone know what's been going on today ?
I was receiving automated SMS for disruption RDG(resolve)->PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) this morning but only after I'd gotten to London (08:30)
As of 16:00 I'm getting texts warning of minor delays following the main line reopening after problems at Hayes.
Has something been ongoing all day ? [ I'm only setup for alerts during my commuter slots ].
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« Reply #883 on: August 17, 2015, 16:57:02 »

I got back to Taplow at about 1400 and the signs were showing grim warnings about signal failures at Hayes, cancellations, delays etc but everything seemed to be running pretty much to time..........I guess it could be that as these signal failures are so frequent, they form part of the daily course of events, and are advertised as such?  Smiley
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« Reply #884 on: August 17, 2015, 19:03:36 »

Paddington is a mess again. All trains showing delays. Useless.
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