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« Reply #2925 on: October 17, 2018, 05:43:38 »

Electric units blocking all lines between Slough & Paddington. Nothing moving east of Slough/Reading until at least lunchtime.

Have pax been evacuated or are train managers taking orders for breakfast now ?

Sorry, don't want to offend RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) so I'll add drivers to that quote where DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) applies.
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« Reply #2926 on: October 17, 2018, 05:58:38 »

Electric units blocking all lines between Slough & Paddington. Nothing moving east of Slough/Reading until at least lunchtime.

Have pax been evacuated or are train managers taking orders for breakfast now ?

Sorry, don't want to offend RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) so I'll add drivers to that quote where DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) applies.

.... and ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about).
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« Reply #2927 on: October 17, 2018, 06:13:14 »

Electric units blocking all lines between Slough & Paddington. Nothing moving east of Slough/Reading until at least lunchtime.

Have pax been evacuated or are train managers taking orders for breakfast now ?

Sorry, don't want to offend RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) so I'll add drivers to that quote where DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) applies.

.... and ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about).

Don't give them ideas, you'll have them all out on strike.

Their social media teams all seem to have given up already  (just when they are most needed)
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« Reply #2928 on: October 17, 2018, 06:24:03 »

I had (clearly foolishly) decided to take a chance on GWR (Great Western Railway) getting me to Plymouth this morning as I'm recovering from a broken ankle & am not able to drive for a couple more weeks. I should have known better. Now trying to find out if my 1st class Advance ticket will be valid tomorrow instead.
It should be TG.

Feel for everyone trying to travel to/from London on GWR. What a mess.
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« Reply #2929 on: October 17, 2018, 06:40:21 »

Feeling “sick” today as I cannot be arsed to travel with this disruption.

144 Train Cancellations this morning.
108 Amendments

Cheltenham’s terminating at Swindon
All others terminating at Reading.
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« Reply #2930 on: October 17, 2018, 06:58:57 »

Feeling “sick” today as I cannot be arsed to travel with this disruption.

144 Train Cancellations this morning.
108 Amendments

Cheltenham’s terminating at Swindon
All others terminating at Reading.

Full quote from Journey Check concerning today:

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Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading
Due to damage to the overhead electric wires between London Paddington and Reading some lines are closed.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
Customer Advice
Since around 19:30 Tuesday evening virtually no train service has been able to operate between London Paddington and Reading in either direction owing to the damage to the overhead wires. This has led to widespread disruption with trains initially stranded in various locations owing to loss of overhead power and diesel powered services unable to bypass the disabled electric trains.

The position this morning is that all lines remain closed between London Paddington and Slough with the possibility that two of these four lines will be available during the afternoon.

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Customers intending to travel to or from intermediate stations between London Paddington and Slough are advised NOT ATTEMPT TO TRAVEL BY TRAIN until such time that confirmation has been published that the route has been reopened.

There will be a very significant reduction in train service frequency on most routes as a result of this incident and those services which do operate will be extremely busy.

Note that between Slough and London Paddington no alternative road transport other than scheduled bus / Underground / train operators services on parallel routes will operate. In other areas neighbouring train operators covering parallel routes and certain local bus routes are conveying holders of GWR (Great Western Railway) tickets by any reasonable route.
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A limited train shuttle service will operate Slough - Reading - Didcot Parkway.

Those customers from London seeking to travel to Reading or west thereof are advised to travel to London Waterloo and travel on South Western Railway services to Reading (either direct or via Guildford or Basingstoke) from where main line services will restart.

Customers travelling to / from the Oxford area are advised to use Chiltern Railways services to / from London Marylebone.

Customers travelling to destinations in Devon and Cornwall are advised to travel via London Waterloo either to Reading or via Salisbury to interchange with West Country services at Exeter St Davids.

Customers travelling to destinations in the Worcester area may travel from London Euston to Birmingham New Street on Virgin West Coast services and then from Birmingham New Street to Worcester on West Midlands Railway services.

Note that with the reduced frequency of services many trains are expected to be very busy.
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An update will follow within the next 2 hours.
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« Reply #2931 on: October 17, 2018, 06:59:23 »

Damage to overhead lines apparently.  Just what is the point of switching to overhead electricity?  It just adds another thing to go wrong .
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« Reply #2932 on: October 17, 2018, 07:13:51 »

Sigh...the one day I really needed to be in. Almost joined some colleagues in getting a taxi from Twyford to Reading to pick up SWR» (South Western Railway - about) but my heart wasn't in it. I;m not sure if they went in the end as there was concern about getting home and just the length of time it would all take.

Thanks to Grahame for the information below as there didn't seem to be much on the GWR (Great Western Railway) website other than don't travel.
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« Reply #2933 on: October 17, 2018, 07:19:29 »

Damage to overhead lines apparently.  Just what is the point of switching to overhead electricity?  It just adds another thing to go wrong .

It does more that just add another thing ... but the brand new electric railway that has yet something else to go wrong and in any case runs out and switches to diesel at Thingley Cocklebury Lane has something of a public relations problem this morning.
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« Reply #2934 on: October 17, 2018, 07:31:32 »

Sigh...the one day I really needed to be in. Almost joined some colleagues in getting a taxi from Twyford to Reading to pick up SWR» (South Western Railway - about) but my heart wasn't in it. I;m not sure if they went in the end as there was concern about getting home and just the length of time it would all take.

Thanks to Grahame for the information below as there didn't seem to be much on the GWR (Great Western Railway) website other than don't travel.

There are signalling problems between Reading  & Waterloo too. GWR "help" being terse & unhelpful.

Almost unbelievably, despite warning people against travel today, they are not confirming whether tickets for today can be transferred to tomorrow's services.
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« Reply #2935 on: October 17, 2018, 07:43:00 »

Thanks to Grahame for the information below as there didn't seem to be much on the GWR (Great Western Railway) website other than don't travel.
GWR have rectified this. Here's a pretty detailed summary of whats running and what isn't:
https://www.gwr.com/travel-updates/live-network-updates/disruption-information

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Overhead wires damaged Wednesday 17 October
On Tuesday 16 October overhead wires were damaged in the London area. This severely disrupted train services between London Paddington and Reading as many trains became stranded owing to the resultant loss of a power supply. Owing to the extent of the damage no trains are expected to be able to operate between London Paddington and Hayes & Harlington in either direction for much of Wednesday 17th October. As a result, GWR, TfL» (Transport for London - about) Rail and Heathrow Express will not be operating a train service between London Paddington, Hayes & Harlington or Slough until such time as repairs have been completed.

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Due to the disruption to Great Western, MTR and Heathrow Express services, we are advising customers not to seek to travel by train between London Paddington and Slough until at least mid-day today, Wednesday 17th October. From mid-day, two of the four lines are expected to reopen; this to be confirmed in due course.

We strongly advise not to travel on long distance routes or towards London due to a reduced train service on all routes and no train services operating to or from London Paddington. Train services will instead terminate and start at Reading.

If you are travelling from London beyond Reading please do not go to London Paddington but instead travel straight to either London Waterloo, London Marylebone or London Euston depending upon your ultimate destination.


A reduced timetable will be in place on Wednesday 17 October that will impact most mainline routes to and from London Paddington all day.

Between London Paddington and Didcot Parkway
Starting and terminating at Slough, a local stopping train service will operate between Slough, Reading and Didcot Parkway only in each direction.
South Western Railway is accepting GWR tickets between London Waterloo and Windsor/ Reading. Chiltern Railways is accepting GWR tickets between London Marylebone, Oxford and Banbury.
Between West Ealing and Greenford
The train service is suspended between West Ealing and Greenford, please travel on London Underground services and London Buses.
Between London Paddington and Bedwyn
Starting and terminating at Reading, the train service will operate between Reading and Bedwyn only.
South Western Railway is accepting GWR tickets between London Waterloo and Windsor/ Reading.
Between London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads
Starting and terminating at Reading, an hourly train service will operate between Reading and Bristol Temple Meads in each direction.
Between London Paddington and Swansea
Starting and terminating at Reading, an hourly train service will operate between Reading and Swansea in each direction. Transport for Wales is accepting GWR tickets between Cheltenham Spa and Cardiff Central and between Newport (South Wales) and Swansea.
Between London Paddington, Exeter, Plymouth and Penzance (West of England)
Starting and terminating at Reading, an hourly train service will operate between Reading and the West of England in each direction. CrossCountry is accepting GWR tickets between Cheltenham Spa, Bristol Temple Meads, Exeter, Plymouth and Penzance.
South Western Railway is accepting GWR tickets between Exeter St David’s, Basingstoke and London Waterloo.
Between London Paddington and Cheltenham Spa
The through train service is suspended between London Paddington and Cheltenham Spa, please travel on alternative services to Swindon and change there for connections. A local stopping train service is operating between Swindon and Cheltenham Spa, but this will be busier than normal. CrossCountry is accepting GWR tickets between Bristol Temple Meads and Cheltenham Spa, if you are travelling to or from Cheltenham Spa you can change at Bristol Parkway for connecting train services.
Between London Paddington, Worcester, Great Malvern and Hereford
Starting and terminating at Reading or Oxford, a reduced train service will operate from Hereford, Great Malvern and Worcester to Oxford and Reading in the morning. A limited train service will operate from Oxford to Worcester in the afternoon.
Virgin Trains West Coast is accepting GWR tickets between London Euston and Birmingham New Street.
West Midlands Railway is accepting GWR tickets between Birmingham New Street, Worcester, Great Malvern and Hereford.
CrossCountry is accepting GWR tickets between Basingstoke and Birmingham New Street.
Night Riviera Sleeper Services Tuesday 16 October:

23:45 London Paddington to Penzance, will start at Reading. If you are booked to travel on this service from London Paddington, please travel to London Waterloo and use South Western Railway services to Reading.
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington, this service will terminate at Reading.
Ticket acceptance:
Your ticket(s) with GWR is valid on the following routes:

London Underground between London Paddington and London Marylebone, London Euston, London Waterloo and Greenford.
London Buses between London and Slough.
South Western Railway between London Waterloo and Reading until the end of the day.
Chiltern Railways between London Marylebone and Oxford/Banbury until the end of the day.
West Midlands Railway between Birmingham New Street and Great Malvern via Worcester.
Virgin Trains West Coast between London Euston and Birmingham New Street until the end of the day.
CrossCountry between Cheltenham Spa and Penzance and also between Basignstoke and Birmingham New Street.
Transport for Wales between Cheltenham Spa and Cardiff Central and between Newport (South Wales) and Cheltenham Spa.
Compensation:

If your train service was delayed or cancelled, you could be entitled to a refund or compensation, please check our Refunds and Compensation page for more information
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« Reply #2936 on: October 17, 2018, 07:45:34 »

So was it an OverHead - Line Equipment (OHLE) failure or did an IET (Intercity Express Train) bring the wiring down?

Going to be a hefty bill for someone.

Looking at Social media from last night, taxis were doing a roaring trade with some very large bills heading GWR (Great Western Railway)'s way in the next few days.

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« Reply #2937 on: October 17, 2018, 07:56:01 »

An empty 802 moving from North Pole to Bristol brought the wires down at Hanwell around 1930 last evening. Yet to hear how any evacuations happened, they can't still be on board, can they?
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« Reply #2938 on: October 17, 2018, 08:05:17 »

An empty 802 moving from North Pole to Bristol brought the wires down at Hanwell around 1930 last evening. Yet to hear how any evacuations happened, they can't still be on board, can they?
So whooooozzz gonna pay for that one GWR (Great Western Railway) or Hitachi as the 802s aren't Agility trains?
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« Reply #2939 on: October 17, 2018, 08:08:50 »

An empty 802 moving from North Pole to Bristol brought the wires down at Hanwell around 1930 last evening. Yet to hear how any evacuations happened, they can't still be on board, can they?

From an attribution viewpoint, I'm not yet clear whether the issue has into Hitachi, Great Western, Network Rail  or act-of-God origins. It may take a while to sort out - I understand (from yesterday) that there are still issues from the 2014 (was it?) issues at Dawlish of who picks up final bills.

On board - there may have been just a driver and I'm sure (s)he has long since been evacuated; I don't know if there's 'just' a tangle of wires or some more serious damage. No news (thank goodness) of anyone being hurt / rushed to hospital.



I wrote (s)he there - very interesting to learn yesterday at the GWR (Great Western Railway) stakeholder conference that although the company is pressing hard in gender neutral recruitment and looking to advertise vacancies and encourage across all communities, the train driver grade remains stubbornly male dominated.  Did I hear a figure of still just 7% of train drivers being ladies?
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