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« Reply #3075 on: October 30, 2018, 06:56:32 am »


Is the head span system due to be replaced? The 2 track issue goes back to my previous post about when will PAX be expecting to see a weekend without renewal or maintenance work going on?

It doesn't help on a Sunday having a two track railway due to engineering work (for both maintenance and renewals).  Don't know how you could easily solve that one.

Lets hope that the work to upgrade the existing headspan areas gets more priority (and funding).


I feel you will always see sections of the 4 track between Reading and Padd closed on Sundays for maintenance / renewals, week day and weekend nights just do not give enough time.



All through the 90's and 00's I travelled daily under the HEx wires and can't recall them ever coming down. Headspans seemed to work fine when competently maintained within their performance envelope.

What are they poking up into the OLE these days?

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 For years the wires only had light use, now the 387’s and 800’s are causing a significant increase in wear and tear.

There have been a few incidents involving the OLE but as this used to only effect HEX and Connect most GWR passengers never noticed.

Even with the low number of trains that used the first 12 miles originally in the last years gaining access to maintain the OLE in amongst the upgrade works would not have been easy, also the Route may have decided not to renew certain items due to planned project work.


Also lets bare in mined the rip down the other week was not due to and OLE defect, it was caused by a train, I don't know what Sundays event was caused by it could be OLE, train or a bird strike (not birds are not members of the RMT  Grin  )
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« Reply #3076 on: October 30, 2018, 08:30:40 am »

I heard on Sunday it was failure of a cross-span wire on the side of the structure where it connects to the counterweights.  That caused everything, including the contacts wires, to sag.
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« Reply #3077 on: October 31, 2018, 10:11:21 am »

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As someone who uses these platforms almost daily during the week to commute, and have done so since 2001, I am not impressed. "Less clutter" means fewer seats -actually now benches - and an inadequate roof that's too high to provide shelter.

Yes, there is a little more room at the inner end of the platforms, but this doesn't seem to done much to alleviate the crush shown in the pictures of today's problems.

I take your points about signage and so on, but the following two photos show the much better passenger flow that is now achieved - as you say a few benches have since been added, but nothing like the clutter that was there before with vending machines, trolley stacks and awkwardly placed seating (as well as, not in the picture, the old ticket check booth which got right in the way with everyone having to funnel into almost single file).  And the canopy was doubled in length, even if maybe not the perfect design.  I dread to think how 4a and 4b as was would have managed with today's number of passengers.

Point also taken that there is some more room, and what was a bad experience might have been worse, but the passenger experience, especially for the unfortunate ones who have done the right thing and decided to go to Gatwick by train via Reading remains poor. If II has colleagues who decide such things, please try to persuade them to put Gatwick semi-fasts on parts of the station that are convenient for lifts, changing platforms, etc etc. I fear that someone may have a mind set that still thinks these are Southern Region trains that should use Southern Region platforms!

Even with the greater capacity, it is also clear that Reading remains a difficult interchange for large numbers of passengers when GWL closes east of Reading. Platforms 4-6 struggle with regular peaks during Royal Ascot and Welsh Rugby internationals at Twickenham, when special control arrangements are put in place. Presumably any use of the two connecting lines is stymied by capacity issues, train types not being cleared for use and the two different types of electricity supply.
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« Reply #3078 on: October 31, 2018, 01:27:34 pm »

If II has colleagues who decide such things, please try to persuade them to put Gatwick semi-fasts on parts of the station that are convenient for lifts, changing platforms, etc etc. I fear that someone may have a mind set that still thinks these are Southern Region trains that should use Southern Region platforms!

I think it's more a case of operational resiliance. You make a fair point that platform 7 has periods where it has quite large gaps in services, but there are fairly sound reasons why the majority use 4, 5 or 6.

1)  Ideally you would want to avoid putting anything other than through services into through platforms, and most of the Gartick/Redhill services have layovers of between 10-15 minutes. 

2)  When a train to Gatwick departing from platform 7 (or 8, 9 or 10) it blocks all arrivals from the Down Main Line whilst it heads to and through Reading New Junction.

3)  Both departures and arrivals take longer to get from 7, 8, 9 or 10 to Reading Spur Junction with its 25mph speed restriction.

4)  You can't get to or from Gatwick from platforms 11 or 12.

5)  In the case of platforms 13, 14 an 15 they are already pretty well used.  If you use platform 15 you restrict the abillity for freight as well as the current xx:03 and xx:33 departures to Paddington that use it for most of the day clashing with the Gatwick/Redhill departure times of xx:04 and xx:32. 

6)  13 and 14 are slightly less used currently, but either one is generally occupied from around xx:08 to xx:18 and xx:38 to xx:48, with usually a XC service every other hour occupying the 'B' end of either platform from xx:08 to xx:45.  That does give a little scope to put anything up to 5-cars in the 'A' end of one of the platforms at the times the Gatwicks/Redhill's would occupy them, but doesn't solve the problem with departure times clashing with those stoppers to Paddington from 15 which can't both depart at the same time.
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« Reply #3079 on: November 05, 2018, 03:21:36 pm »

I feel you will always see sections of the 4 track between Reading and Padd closed on Sundays for maintenance / renewals, week day and weekend nights just do not give enough time.

25 years ago, when there hardly any trains to be had on any Sunday, it didn't matter so much.
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« Reply #3080 on: November 07, 2018, 07:22:59 am »

Alterations to services between Ealing Broadway and West Ealing


Due to a speed restriction over defective track between Ealing Broadway and West Ealing fewer trains are able to run on some lines towards Reading.
Train services running through these stations may be delayed or running non stop between London Paddington and Southall. Disruption is expected until 10:30 07/11.
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« Reply #3081 on: November 12, 2018, 06:36:19 am »

Due to a broken down train between Slough and Hayes & Harlington the line is blocked.
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Train services running through these stations may be delayed. Disruption is expected until 07:15 12/11.
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« Reply #3082 on: November 17, 2018, 09:51:41 am »

Wot no entries since Monday 12th.  Shocked

Is this a record?  Smiley
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« Reply #3083 on: November 17, 2018, 09:54:01 am »

Wot no entries since Monday 12th.  Shocked

Is this a record?  Smiley

Dunno - but it's a post that might be asking for trouble ...
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« Reply #3084 on: November 22, 2018, 08:11:57 pm »

Wot no entries since Monday 12th.  Shocked

Is this a record?  Smiley

Dunno - but it's a post that might be asking for trouble ...


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A fault with the signalling system between Southall and London Paddington is causing disruption to and from London Paddington. Trains may be cancelled, delayed by up to 25 minutes or revised.
A normal service is expected to resume by 21:00.
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« Reply #3085 on: November 23, 2018, 10:22:54 am »

Not a bad run all the same. 13th to 21st.
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« Reply #3086 on: November 23, 2018, 10:31:17 am »

Not a bad run all the same. 13th to 21st.

The inner Thames Valley infrastructure, where most of the problems seemed to lie, does seem to be generally more reliable recently.
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« Reply #3087 on: November 23, 2018, 01:21:33 pm »

Not a bad run all the same. 13th to 21st.

The inner Thames Valley infrastructure, where most of the problems seemed to lie, does seem to be generally more reliable recently.

Is that because the crossrail team is not doing as much work to it and around it?
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« Reply #3088 on: November 25, 2018, 12:24:39 am »

Really, it was from the 7th, as the 12th was a train failure...
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« Reply #3089 on: November 27, 2018, 07:26:31 am »

Due to an operational incident between Slough and London Paddington the line towards London Paddington bound local stopping is blocked.
Impact:
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed by up to 45 minutes or revised. Acton Main Line will not be served. Disruption is expected until 09:00 27/11.
Customer Advice:
Underground services are conveying passengers via any reasonable route until further notice. Arrangements have been made for Great Western Railway rail tickets to be accepted for these journeys.
London Buses are conveying passengers via any reasonable route until further notice.
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