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« Reply #3120 on: November 28, 2018, 18:22:24 » |
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Yes, clearly the high cost of putting in trap points is justified by mitigating the potential consequences of a SPAD▸ . However, it may be that only a modest cost is involved in, say, moving the cable troughs a few metres. And at Padd was there really no other option than to locate the trap points and OHLE mast (I don't know which was there first) such that the low speed SPAD in P1A by the ECS▸ Turbo a couple of years ago brought down half the wires and caused huge disruption?
With new installations/schemes there may be no or minimal costs involved in keeping S&T▸ and OHLE clear of trap points.
Not always that simple, the moving of it may but it closer to an open main running line and putting staff at risk when maintaining it or mean blocking the line to maintain it |
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« Reply #3121 on: November 30, 2018, 17:29:50 » |
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Due to damage to the overhead electric wires between West Drayton and Slough trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines towards Slough.
Impact:
Train services running through these stations may be delayed by up to 15 minutes. Disruption is expected until 18:15 30/11.
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« Reply #3122 on: November 30, 2018, 17:53:49 » |
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It seems the down main is closed in the affected section. I'm crawling along the relief on 1W02, at least since the Ealing area to Slough.
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« Reply #3123 on: November 30, 2018, 18:31:36 » |
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It seems the down main is closed in the affected section. I'm crawling along the relief on 1W02, at least since the Ealing area to Slough.
Yeah ... on 1B69. 17:45 off Paddington then crawl and wrong line. Currently 12 minutes late and with a 5 minute 'connection' at Swindon for Melksham - arrive 18:43 leave 18:48. Me thinks I may be stuck there until after 8 O'Clock ... |
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« Reply #3124 on: November 30, 2018, 18:39:44 » |
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It seems the down main is closed in the affected section. I'm crawling along the relief on 1W02, at least since the Ealing area to Slough.
Down main was open, but restricted to 20mph for electric trains (linespeed for diesel) unti examination has taken place. Problem caused by an ADD▸ (Automatic Dropping Device) activation on a Paddington-Swansea train, so might be spurious rather than any actual damage, but obviously needs to be checked and a line block has been taken whilst that is undertaken. |
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/ |
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« Reply #3125 on: November 30, 2018, 19:17:50 » |
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It seems the down main is closed in the affected section. I'm crawling along the relief on 1W02, at least since the Ealing area to Slough.
Yeah ... on 1B69. 17:45 off Paddington then crawl and wrong line. Currently 12 minutes late and with a 5 minute 'connection' at Swindon for Melksham - arrive 18:43 leave 18:48. Me thinks I may be stuck there until after 8 O'Clock ... Yep ... missed by a few minutes ... especially irritating because the 18:48 sits as Westbury for 10 minutes, and is timed for 75 mph stock I believe, but running with 90 m.p.h. stock. Wouldn't have got in the way of the Bristolian tonight as that's 10 minutes late too ... If 5 minute connections at Swindon drop like flies ... perhaps it's time to allow longer there for connections. Or time to make the incoming trains a bit more punctual  |
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« Reply #3126 on: November 30, 2018, 22:31:48 » |
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It seems the down main is closed in the affected section. I'm crawling along the relief on 1W02, at least since the Ealing area to Slough.
Yeah ... on 1B69. 17:45 off Paddington then crawl and wrong line. Currently 12 minutes late and with a 5 minute 'connection' at Swindon for Melksham - arrive 18:43 leave 18:48. Me thinks I may be stuck there until after 8 O'Clock ... Yep ... missed by a few minutes ... especially irritating because the 18:48 sits as Westbury for 10 minutes, and is timed for 75 mph stock I believe, but running with 90 m.p.h. stock. Wouldn't have got in the way of the Bristolian tonight as that's 10 minutes late too ... If 5 minute connections at Swindon drop like flies ... perhaps it's time to allow longer there for connections. Or time to make the incoming trains a bit more punctual Just out of interest, what do you do Graham, when you have a lengthy wait for your next train? Find a pub? Watch a film? Play football with other passengers? something else? |
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« Reply #3127 on: November 30, 2018, 22:48:13 » |
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Just out of interest, what do you do Graham, when you have a lengthy wait for your next rain? Find a pub? Watch a film? Play football with other passengers? something else?
My laptop is my mobile office. You will find a post tomorrow that was written on the ffreezing platform at Chippenham tonight (I split the wait between Swindon and Chippenham). And a good chance to think, chat, look around in research. What's a "pub"? |
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« Reply #3128 on: December 01, 2018, 12:34:15 » |
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Just out of interest, what do you do Graham, when you have a lengthy wait for your next rain? Find a pub? Watch a film? Play football with other passengers? something else?
My laptop is my mobile office. You will find a post tomorrow that was written on the ffreezing platform at Chippenham tonight (I split the wait between Swindon and Chippenham). And a good chance to think, chat, look around in research. What's a "pub"? Why freeze? could you not have used a waiting room. Now a sensible question?, If a contractor damages signalling equipment not part of the job they are doing, then I assume Network Rail bills them for it. |
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« Reply #3129 on: December 01, 2018, 15:45:50 » |
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Why freeze? could you not have used a waiting room.
Well ... Long wait on Chippenham Station. As it got colder, the gate line staff went off duty leaving the station unmanned, and asked me to leave the warmth of the waiting room so they could lock it up. Ironic situation that the waiting room is closed at the colder time of day and when the gaps between trains are longer, isn't it?
I took the view that standing my ground and creating a scene wasn't appropriate. |
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« Reply #3130 on: December 01, 2018, 17:49:49 » |
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In my opinion Chippenham should not be left un-staffed that early in the evening, particularly on a Friday
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I like to travel. It lets me feel I'm getting somewhere.
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« Reply #3131 on: December 01, 2018, 19:22:22 » |
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Why freeze? could you not have used a waiting room.
Well ... Long wait on Chippenham Station. As it got colder, the gate line staff went off duty leaving the station unmanned, and asked me to leave the warmth of the waiting room so they could lock it up. Ironic situation that the waiting room is closed at the colder time of day and when the gaps between trains are longer, isn't it?
I took the view that standing my ground and creating a scene wasn't appropriate. I Took the view that Chippenham was a large important station and would have dispatch staff present, so waiting rooms would be open until midnight. |
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« Reply #3132 on: December 02, 2018, 07:09:05 » |
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In my opinion Chippenham should not be left un-staffed that early in the evening, particularly on a Friday
I Took the view that Chippenham was a large important station and would have dispatch staff present, so waiting rooms would be open until midnight.
Follow up at http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=20776.0 - that's a new thread for "Transport Scholars" only as I want to avoid raising concerns in public when someone "in the know" may be able to re-assure me that I should not be concerned. Transport Scholars is open and available to any member of the forum on request. We discuss things there at a deeper and hopefully dispassionate level. Post volume is not high there, but the quality of the discussions is very high. If you are a member not in that area, but would like to be, please ask me via personal message or email. |
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« Reply #3133 on: December 02, 2018, 07:55:12 » |
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Now a sensible question?, If a contractor damages signalling equipment not part of the job they are doing, then I assume Network Rail bills them for it.
Basically yes, although like all claims if a contractor denies they caused the fault it can get very contractual. Its not usually the first tier, principle contractor, that causes problems but the second or third tier sub contractors, although the first tier is the one that holds the liability with NR» |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #3134 on: December 03, 2018, 13:47:08 » |
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Now a sensible question?, If a contractor damages signalling equipment not part of the job they are doing, then I assume Network Rail bills them for it.
Basically yes, although like all claims if a contractor denies they caused the fault it can get very contractual. Its not usually the first tier, principle contractor, that causes problems but the second or third tier sub contractors, although the first tier is the one that holds the liability with NR» Thanks for the reply. Making me mad at the moment is those sticky things on the top of Tetley tea bags, they never seem to stick again. So if a firm does that they do get billed. I Don't suppose there is anything signal related that costs 4.99. |
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