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« Reply #3150 on: December 29, 2018, 08:30:50 »

Though, for me, the word 'circulate' is a bit of a silly one to give to passengers.

I agree with the sense in having passengers  go through and return to get to their station when it's only open / there's only a train calling in one direction.  As well as at times of stress to the system (where the platform one direction is closed), it's allowed routinely under easements of routing for places where it makes journeys more practical - see via http://data.atoc.org/routeing-guide and search the easement list for places like Dilton Marsh and Pilning.

But I struggle with what to call this for the public.    I too have some disquiet at the word "circulate". I too imagine passengers dressing finely and partaking of a cheese and wine party on the transfer bridge at Reading, mixing with GWR (Great Western Railway) and Network Rail managers as they make an unexpected stop on their way home from London to Slough.    But all very easy to criticise - but what wording would be better??

"Divert via" ... does not indicate the passage through the target station during the round(dish) trip, and I think there's a need for the passenger to be aware this will happen - otherwise the passenger will get concerned and may pull the emergency chain (or whatever it has been replaced with.

"Circulate via" ... see my comments above

"Reflect at" ... oh dear -  Grin - I can imagine the idea relaxation classes, meditation groups ....

"passing through your planned destination to come back the other way" ... too long for short messages and CIS (Customer Information System) screens

"Double Back at" is the wording used in the routing guide.   To me that's good, clear enough, and strikes me as a positive change from "circulate" - but would it be understood by the public?
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« Reply #3151 on: December 29, 2018, 08:55:52 »

Perhaps "Travel via ..."
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« Reply #3152 on: December 29, 2018, 09:00:30 »

Perhaps "Travel via ..."

I have the same concern as with "divert via" ...
"Divert via" ... does not indicate the passage through the target station during the round(dish) trip, and I think there's a need for the passenger to be aware this will happen - otherwise the passenger will get concerned and may pull the emergency chain (or whatever it has been replaced with.
... but what do others think?
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« Reply #3153 on: December 29, 2018, 09:25:56 »

Perhaps "Travel via ..."

"Travel via" is simplest, but doesn't quite work if you are not changing your route - for example having to go to change partway because no trains are currently stopping at your origin and destination. "Travel to xxx and change" is likely to cover most cases, and I'm sure I've heard it in the past. "Change" can be expanded to something explicit if need be.
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« Reply #3154 on: December 29, 2018, 16:59:01 »

“Travel via and return to...........”
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« Reply #3155 on: December 29, 2018, 18:56:15 »

IIRC (if I recall/remember/read correctly) the French use "circuler" where we'd use "travel" (as in "passengers must travel via...") but also "run" ("no trains will run..."). I wonder if "circulate" is an inadvertent Gallicism?
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« Reply #3156 on: December 30, 2018, 01:30:52 »

Problem solved - teach everybody French, and then there will be no confusion! Simples!

C’est magnifique, mais ce n’est pas la gare.
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« Reply #3157 on: December 30, 2018, 02:33:04 »

Here's a French primer for an alternative transport to rail.
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« Reply #3158 on: December 30, 2018, 13:10:25 »

For some reason, All of the Cheltenham Spa trains to London Paddington have been cancelled, they are all terminating in Plat 1 at Swindon, and been replaced with a H.S.T.  set, No I.E.T. Sets, yet all other trains to London appear to be running.
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« Reply #3159 on: December 30, 2018, 15:26:32 »

No trains to London (Paddington) are running today.
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« Reply #3160 on: December 30, 2018, 18:47:01 »


Priceless!

Other helpful French phrases include:
Avant garde - equivalent to DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) here.
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« Reply #3161 on: December 30, 2018, 20:24:12 »


Priceless!

Other helpful French phrases include:
Avant garde - equivalent to DOO (Driver-Only Operation (that is, trains which operate without carrying a guard)) here.

This thread is getting like a version of 'I haven't a clue'.  Can we play Mornington Crescent across the GWR (Great Western Railway) network?
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« Reply #3162 on: December 30, 2018, 20:36:03 »

Yes lets get back to reporting problems in the thames valley, now everyones ready to go back to work ,college.


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« Reply #3163 on: December 30, 2018, 20:38:07 »

I am no longer at colledge, having acquired sufficient knowlege.
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« Reply #3164 on: December 30, 2018, 20:45:47 »

I am no longer at college, having acquired sufficient knowlege.

Just refered to peoples everyday lives I suppose.
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