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« Reply #3826 on: September 19, 2022, 20:21:50 » |
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Which presumably means that it hasn't yet been cleaned from last night?
Correct. Train needs cleaning, fuelling and possibly servicing. If the up Sleeper was to run I suspect it’ll be extremely difficult to return a set to Penzance and have it ready again for tomorrow night. |
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« Reply #3827 on: September 19, 2022, 20:53:32 » |
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Looks like a couple of trains have made it out of Paddington:
1C94 to Plymouth
1C31 to Weston super Mare
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« Reply #3828 on: September 19, 2022, 21:26:20 » |
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Suspect that GWR▸ will pass these costs on to Network Rail.
That's assuming the fault was with the OLE▸ and not a train pan causing the rip down, it may not even have been the 2 trains directly involved. As all the trains on the Western have PanCams the cause will be identified |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #3830 on: September 19, 2022, 21:48:28 » |
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Suspect that GWR▸ will pass these costs on to Network Rail.
That's assuming the fault was with the OLE▸ and not a train pan causing the rip down, it may not even have been the 2 trains directly involved. As all the trains on the Western have PanCams the cause will be identified I would have thought the important thing was to find out what went wrong to try to avoid it again. Considering that The Government essential takes all the risk now, how important is it really to assign the costs? |
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« Reply #3831 on: September 19, 2022, 23:02:17 » |
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No too bad a queue given that all trains were formed of 8 or 10 cars, so room, with standing, for 800+ passengers. Perhaps one and a half trains worth of queue in that clip? Let me put it another way. I’m sure the queues next summer for a coronation ox roast will be far longer! |
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To view my GWML▸ Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/ |
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« Reply #3832 on: September 20, 2022, 02:42:37 » |
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"Only travel if absolutely necessary" seems to be an increasingly frequent message these days, for various reasons including strikes, bad weather, cracked trains, signaling failures, and wires down. Hardly encouraging use of the greener transport choice. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #3833 on: September 20, 2022, 05:16:25 » |
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"Only travel if absolutely necessary" tomorrow morning message going out on NR» Twitter now and retweeted by GWR▸ so it isn't looking good.
Cancellations to services between Slough and London Paddington
Due to damage to the overhead electric wires between Slough and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run on all lines.
Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled, delayed or terminated at and started back from Reading.
All stations between Slough and London Paddington will not be served. Disruption is expected until 12:00 20/09. |
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« Reply #3834 on: September 20, 2022, 07:36:31 » |
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Suspect that GWR▸ will pass these costs on to Network Rail.
That's assuming the fault was with the OLE▸ and not a train pan causing the rip down, it may not even have been the 2 trains directly involved. As all the trains on the Western have PanCams the cause will be identified I would have thought the important thing was to find out what went wrong to try to avoid it again. Considering that The Government essential takes all the risk now, how important is it really to assign the costs? There has always been 2 threads to these investigations the schedule 8 payment ie money and the technical engineering investigation ie what broke, why and when. Unfortunately, the first, money, can hamper the second technical. In the past some TOC▸ 's have not always been able / willing to release the camera footage. This attitude has changed in the last few years. It is easy to say remove all the headspan from the 12 miles, I suspect the NR» Region has a plan for this, but there are a couple of things that hamper this - - Funding, there is only so much money the ORR» /DfT» agrees to in a Control Peirod
Access, the TOC's and ORR have to agree to the possessions / blockades to carry out the work, let's face it the GW▸ Mainline has had 10 years of this for GWEP▸ and Crossrail work so more weekend disruption would not be popular with the public
Resources, it is difficult and expensive contractually to do a piece meal project, NR does not have an internal team that can do such work so all of this type of work has to be in the Control Period Framework Contract as agreed with the ORR CP funding plan
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #3835 on: September 20, 2022, 10:24:10 » |
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Disruption now expected "until the end of the day"
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« Reply #3836 on: September 20, 2022, 10:44:27 » |
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Disruption now expected "until the end of the day"
But which day? I may appear to being cheeky for asking that, however journey check states (10:11 update, today, 20.9.2022) Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled, delayed or terminated at and started back from Reading. All stations between Slough and London Paddington will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. and then within the same report Network Rail rapid response units are on site overnight and we are focussed on getting services up and running as soon as possible. However, due to the extent of the damage, disruption is expected for the rest of today, and until at least 12:00 Tuesday 20 September. which suggest the report is old text that has not been updated. |
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« Reply #3837 on: September 20, 2022, 10:47:58 » |
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Thank you Electric Train for your lovely insight.
From that, any investigation as to what happened and what evolved will all be for internal consumption, so the likes of we won't get to read it.
Shame, but understandable
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« Reply #3838 on: September 20, 2022, 10:50:12 » |
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Disruption now expected "until the end of the day"
But which day? I may appear to being cheeky for asking that, however journey check states (10:11 update, today, 20.9.2022) Train services running to and from these stations will be cancelled, delayed or terminated at and started back from Reading. All stations between Slough and London Paddington will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day. and then within the same report Network Rail rapid response units are on site overnight and we are focussed on getting services up and running as soon as possible. However, due to the extent of the damage, disruption is expected for the rest of today, and until at least 12:00 Tuesday 20 September. which suggest the report is old text that has not been updated. Indeed, sloppy admin most probably. Looking at the number of cancellations/"alterations" however, I'd suggest the end of the day is probably nearer the mark......although which day, as you suggest, is open to question!!! |
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« Reply #3839 on: September 20, 2022, 11:26:46 » |
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End of today.
Lines opened at 0930, with 2 electric & 2 diesel only.
Final fix overnight tonight with full service again tomorrow morning
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