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« Reply #4275 on: November 29, 2023, 16:03:22 »

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Based on its investigation, ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action.

Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ...
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« Reply #4276 on: November 29, 2023, 16:46:19 »

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Based on its investigation, ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action.

Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ...

I think most people are living in hope of proper maintenance that keeps the trains running and the customers safe, at least as a starting point?
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« Reply #4277 on: November 29, 2023, 22:59:30 »

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Based on its investigation, ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action.

Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ...

The danger is they get told to merely run less trains?
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« Reply #4278 on: November 29, 2023, 23:41:43 »

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Based on its investigation, ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action.

Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ...

The danger is they get told to merely run less trains?

Yes, I know - that thought concerns me. I have spent the evening in the audience at Dan Okey's talk to WWRUG» (West Wiltshire Rail Users Group - about) and listening to vocal members of the audience  complaining about overcrowding as it is.  And at times, the audience is certainly right, the supply of enough trains of enough carriages on them in inadequate.
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« Reply #4279 on: November 30, 2023, 06:32:09 »

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Based on its investigation, ORR» (Office of Rail and Road formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about) will determine whether or not there is more that Network Rail could be doing and may decide on appropriate measures, which could include enforcement action.

Not looking to second guess what the ORR determines, but should it conclude that Network Rail is trying to send too many trains through too few lines, could the solution be to tell Network Rail to put in, for example, a track alongside platform 0 at Westbury or a loop to let out-of-path freight trains be passed / overtaken on single lines. Yeah, one lives in hope of proper solutions ...

The danger is they get told to merely run less trains?

It is not as easy to say Network Rail just run less trains, the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) through its contract with the ToC set the service level which the ORR regulate, the only way to run less trains is through a timetable change which the DfT, ORR and TOC (Train Operating Company)'s all have an input, if the TOC sees a reduction in revenue they will want compensation.   

NR» (Network Rail - home page) often request "disruptive" access from the ToC's the TOC's can decline this.  I wonder what additional access has been requested to carryout the repairs to this recent broken rail, the other aspect effecting the repair could be the cold weather
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« Reply #4280 on: November 30, 2023, 07:02:42 »

Continuing all day today, with repairs apparently being undertaken tonight.

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) London just ran a story on it reporting 4 similar incidents in 8 days and showing pictures of the broken rails.

Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to a broken rail between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
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« Reply #4281 on: November 30, 2023, 08:23:41 »

Continuing all day today, with repairs apparently being undertaken tonight.

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) London just ran a story on it reporting 4 similar incidents in 8 days and showing pictures of the broken rails.

Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to a broken rail between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.


And just to add to the ongoing fun & games, now this......

Alterations to services between Slough and London Paddington

Due to a points failure between Slough and London Paddington some lines towards London Paddington are blocked.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 11:00 30/11.
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« Reply #4282 on: November 30, 2023, 10:49:32 »

Continuing all day today, with repairs apparently being undertaken tonight.

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) London just ran a story on it reporting 4 similar incidents in 8 days and showing pictures of the broken rails.

Alterations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to a broken rail between London Paddington and Reading trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
And just to add to the ongoing fun & games, now this......

Alterations to services between Slough and London Paddington

Due to a points failure between Slough and London Paddington some lines towards London Paddington are blocked.

Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 11:00 30/11.

It looks like there was some sort of issue between EAL (Ealing Broadway Station) and PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains), e.g. the 07:16 EL service from MAI (Maidenhead station) took 75 minutes to travel between those two stations:

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L79515/2023-11-30/detailed

EDIT: I've just seen this blog post from IanVisits, the delays were due to a broken down train at PAD:

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/observances-of-the-elizabeth-line-problems-this-morning-67829/
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« Reply #4283 on: November 30, 2023, 11:09:51 »

A blog from IansVisits on the issues with the Elizabeth Line this morning, which bit Woolwich quite badly. A cogent observation that there was suppressed demand for travel there, now met by the new line, but when that stalls, the legacy transport systems  - the DLR (Docklands Light Railway) and South Eastern Railways, struggle. Probably not helped by South Eastern run in a lackluster way under the command of the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) who rather than continue to build their own market, saw the opening of the Elizabeth line as an opportunity to cut services and alter service patterns to break through routes.

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https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/observances-of-the-elizabeth-line-problems-this-morning-67829/
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« Reply #4284 on: December 01, 2023, 11:58:00 »

Another day, another failure......

A fault with the signalling system at Iver means some lines from London Paddington towards Reading are currently blocked.

As a result, Elizabeth line services that run between London Paddington and Slough may be delayed by up to 25 minutes or revised.

Disruption is expected until 13:00.
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« Reply #4285 on: December 01, 2023, 16:48:43 »

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Delays to services between Maidenhead and Twyford

Due to a safety inspection of the track between Maidenhead and Twyford trains have to run at reduced speed on some lines towards Twyford.

Train services running through these stations will be delayed by up to 20 minutes. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
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Fortunately there are a number of cancellations which will help thin out the service...
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« Reply #4286 on: December 07, 2023, 21:02:08 »

Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Reading

Due to damage to the overhead electric wires between London Paddington and Reading all lines are closed.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

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We are sorry for the delay to your journey today.



One of our trains has struck an obstruction on the line causing damage to the OLE (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE").
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« Reply #4287 on: December 07, 2023, 21:05:07 »

Looks like nothing moving from Paddington to Slough. A sorry end to the week.
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« Reply #4288 on: December 07, 2023, 21:08:36 »

Looks like nothing moving from Paddington to Slough. A sorry end to the week.

Stranded trains being evacuated by the emergency services outside Paddington & Reading according to GWR (Great Western Railway) Twitter feed.

Far more detailed information on the National Rail website. Problems expected until 0900 tomorrow.

https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/london-paddington-20231207/
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« Reply #4289 on: December 07, 2023, 22:37:31 »

Looks like nothing moving from Paddington to Slough. A sorry end to the week.

Stranded trains being evacuated by the emergency services outside Paddington & Reading according to GWR (Great Western Railway) Twitter feed.

Far more detailed information on the National Rail website. Problems expected until 0900 tomorrow.

https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/london-paddington-20231207/

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https://twitter.com/Charles83230639/status/1732888947221479921  Embarrassed
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