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« on: October 07, 2014, 16:09:33 » |
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JayMac
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2014, 17:37:30 » |
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Sadly, the one major reliability problem with the Night Riviera won't be addressed by this funding. The locomotives.
It really is time an alternative was sought for the Class 57s. They've done the job fairly well, but they are a bag of reconditioned components, with parts of them being over 40 years old.
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"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for the rest of the day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
- Sir Terry Pratchett.
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2014, 21:46:25 » |
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Sounds like a job for class 68 variants perhaps?
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JayMac
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2014, 21:52:11 » |
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Who pays for them?
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"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for the rest of the day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
- Sir Terry Pratchett.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2014, 11:35:03 » |
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Just out of interest, how well used is the Night Riviera? (Both directions?)
Are all the berths/seats generally full every night or is it more heavily loaded some nights than others?
Anyone got experience of doing the full journey in a seat rather than a berth?
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bobm
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 12:36:19 » |
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An extra coach of sleeper berths is usually added on the westbound trip on a Friday night and comes back up on the Sunday night service from Cornwall as those two trains are usually quite busy. The rest of the time you can quite often get a berth on the day; you can book on line til 6pm - but I wouldn't recommend just turning up on the platform unless it really is a last minute decision. The train goes slower than the day trains which is great if you are in a bed, not so good if you are in a seat.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2014, 14:34:32 » |
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Thanks for that - I'm often tempted to give it a go from PAD» - PLY» however getting turfed out on arrival at 0514 isn't really ideal!!!
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bobm
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2014, 15:14:42 » |
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Yes it is a shame they no longer detach a coach at Plymouth as they used to.
I have travelled beyond Plymouth into Cornwall and got a single ticket back just to get an extra lie in. You can still arrive in Plymouth before the first "day" train.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2014, 19:14:39 » |
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Yes it is a shame they no longer detach a coach at Plymouth as they used to.
I have travelled beyond Plymouth into Cornwall and got a single ticket back just to get an extra lie in. You can still arrive in Plymouth before the first "day" train.
I remember seeing this coach with its 08 shunter, so I'm guessing the cost of crewing the shunter was the issue here? Now the Royal Mail sidings are redundant, could the 57 not undertake the shunting itself? That way, the coach can be left in the sidings during the day and not block the running lines. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2014, 21:00:21 » |
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It would still have to be taken out to Laira to be serviced, bedding changed, toilet tanks emptied & water tanks filled
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8 Billion people on a wet rock - of course we're not happy
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2014, 19:56:43 » |
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From the Railway Gazette: Toilet upgrading contract UK▸ : TRB Lightweight Structures has been awarded a contract to supply PRM▸ -TSI compliant Universal Access Toilet Modules for the refurbishment and upgrading of the sleeping cars used on First Great Western^s London ^ Penzance Night Riviera. Combining innovative design with lightweight composite engineering, TRB^s customisable toilet module has been designed for easy retrofitting to existing vehicles. As well as improving accessibility in line with the TSI requirements, the lighter weight of the toilet modules is expected to contribute to lower operating costs. |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: stop, look, listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2014, 20:07:28 » |
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That toilet module looks substantially larger than the existing toilets. Will there be a reduction in berth capacity to fit these modules into the existing stock?
(Also, toilet module sounds like something one would be installing on the International Space Station, not a train)
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JayMac
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2014, 20:18:54 » |
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Funnily enough, I've just been watching a youtube clip of NASA astronaut Sunita Williams giving a guided tour of the ISS. The toilet facilities there seem very 'Heath Robinson' in comparison to the very high technology that keeps the ISS orbiting and the astronauts alive. http://youtu.be/doN4t5NKW-k?t=9m9s |
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"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for the rest of the day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."
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Rhydgaled
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2014, 11:30:11 » |
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If they are making the toilets on the sleeper compliant, are they going to do the same with the doors (either fitting internal handles or replacing them with power-operated doors)?
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Don't DOO▸ it, keep the guard (but it probably wouldn't be a bad idea if the driver unlocked the doors on arrival at calling points).
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2014, 13:18:25 » |
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Funnily enough, I've just been watching a youtube clip of NASA astronaut Sunita Williams giving a guided tour of the ISS. The toilet facilities there seem very 'Heath Robinson' in comparison to the very high technology that keeps the ISS orbiting and the astronauts alive. http://youtu.be/doN4t5NKW-k?t=9m9sFor one moment there I thought we were in for a clip from The Big Bang Theory !. |
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