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Author Topic: Filton Abbey Wood - a great success? Emulate it just to the north??  (Read 32824 times)
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« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2017, 11:48:10 am »

I think, barring any other limitations, Ashley Down is better placed than B&Q other than as a park and ride, and still has some access infrastructure left from before the earlier station closed - the underpass for example. A park and ride so close to the city centre would defeat the object of P&Rs (Park and Ride), and cut the dubious benefits.

Stations there and on Constable Road (by the bridge) have certainly been proposed, if not by the unelected unaccountable self-appointing oligarchy that is our LEP» (Local Enterprise Partnership - about), nor by the so far ineffectual Western Super Mayor, but it certainly has the support of the local councillors and MP (Member of Parliament) amongst others. If part of the purpose of of transport improvements is to connect communities seen as disadvantaged, then a new Lockleaze station, smack in the middle of a large housing estate, should be high up the list. It is served by the number 24 bus, soon to have much of the southern part of its route replicated by MetroBust, and so likely to see cuts in services.
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« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2017, 12:22:57 pm »

Picky of me to quibble over the use of 'proposed'.

I have got the impression that Ashley Hill is a no-go though, on the basis that it's too tight a curve, too steep a hill and too close to Montpelier station. I've not seen a gradient profile, so I'm not sure how the B&Q site compares, but the curve is turning into an inflexion at the northern end of the site.

I also seem to remember an argument that there's only timetabling scope for one stop between Stapleton Rd and Filton Abbey Wood - so a compromise location between Ashley Hill and Lockleaze could make sense.
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« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2017, 12:28:52 pm »

I seem to recall that there will be some crossovers in that area, which also complicates the possibility of a station there.
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« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2017, 09:04:47 pm »

I also seem to remember an argument that there's only timetabling scope for one stop between Stapleton Rd and Filton Abbey Wood - so a compromise location between Ashley Hill and Lockleaze could make sense.


Don't believe it, there's four tracking coming up. Relief line TM(resolve) to Narroways Junction, 2 tph to Severn Beach, 2 tph to Henbury, 1 tph stopper to Cardiff, total 5 tph = 12 minute headway. Main line TM to FAW, 2 tph Bristol to Paddington via Parkway, 2 tph Cross Country, 1 (+ 1 proposed) tph to Gloucester (1 turnback at Yate) call it 6 tph = 10 minute headway.

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« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2017, 09:10:42 pm »

I also seem to remember an argument that there's only timetabling scope for one stop between Stapleton Rd and Filton Abbey Wood - so a compromise location between Ashley Hill and Lockleaze could make sense.


Don't believe it, there's four tracking coming up. Relief line TM(resolve) to Narroways Junction, 2 tph to Severn Beach, 2 tph to Henbury, 1 tph stopper to Cardiff, total 5 tph = 12 minute headway. Main line TM to FAW, 2 tph Bristol to Paddington via Parkway, 2 tph Cross Country, 1 (+ 1 proposed) tph to Gloucester (1 turnback at Yate) call it 6 tph = 10 minute headway.

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Main line TM to FAW, 2 tph Bristol to Paddington via Parkway, 2 tph Cross Country, 1 tph Portsmouth - Cardiff, 1 (+ 1 proposed) tph to Gloucester (1 turnback at Yate) call it 7 tph = 8 1/2 minute headway.
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« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2017, 10:22:36 pm »

Don't believe it, there's four tracking coming up.

Not before time, I say!  Cheesy
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« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2017, 07:51:26 am »

Where there's a will there's a way.

...ay, there's the rub...
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« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2017, 08:47:01 am »

...ay, there's the rub...

Two track, or not two track. That is the question...
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« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2017, 08:56:10 am »

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« Reply #69 on: October 28, 2017, 08:56:48 pm »

I found myself delivering survey forms to the building marked with an arrow here



(does anyone know who's office that is and what they do there?)

I took the opportunity to learn a little more as I had more that enough time to walk back down to Patchway Station ... and looking under the bridge that could carry the south eastern entrance to a station, it becomes very clear that there's a good horizontal as well as vertical separation



On top of that bridge, I've stitched together (my sewing is awful) a panorama showing the wide footpath and pedestrian access from shops and residential already in place



A second exit at the north west end of the platforms (if there's a lift at the SE, would one or a slope, or just steps be required at the NW?) could lead up to the place I dropped the forms off, which is one of the main buildings on the loop road around Aztec West.

Will never happen, of course  Grin




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« Reply #70 on: October 28, 2017, 09:01:14 pm »

I work at the other end of Aztec West and walk past there a lot but never noticed the big red arrow.😀
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« Reply #71 on: October 28, 2017, 09:34:14 pm »

(does anyone know who's office that is and what they do there?)
They manufacture big red arrows.  Grin
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« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2017, 09:35:35 pm »

One possible problem or at least something to note is that pedestrian access from one side of the A38 to the other at that point is awful. Easily rectified of course but there has to be the will to do so.
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« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2017, 10:22:12 pm »

One possible problem or at least something to note is that pedestrian access from one side of the A38 to the other at that point is awful. Easily rectified of course but there has to be the will to do so.

Really? I would have thought that the ramped subway running from Station Rd under both the A38 and B4057 met accessibility criteria pretty well. Not that that's very relevant; in the context of a new railway station the cost of gold-plating the access would be [mixed metaphor alert]chicken feed[/mixed metaphor alert].

For fear of repeating myself, I think it would be a brilliant place for a station.
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« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2017, 10:49:47 pm »

In a sensible world the station should have been built before the catenary for electrification was installed to avoid having to rebuild it to accommodate the platforms. Perhaps some passive provision could have been incorporated but seeing that no station is being considered there such provision seems unlikely.
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