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« Reply #525 on: June 07, 2017, 10:52:53 pm »

Thanks for your observations, IndustryInsider.  Wink

Press coverage of this particular service improvement was probably muted, due to other events in the news, in Manchester and at London Bridge, for example - and in the lead up to the general election.  And it was / is half term week. Roll Eyes

We'll perhaps see how things really develop from next week onwards.  Wink

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« Reply #526 on: June 08, 2017, 10:14:51 am »

Another disappointing morning of delays and cancellations on arrivals at Paddington and the other GWR routes, though rather surprisingly the Maidenhead/Slough electrics managed to avoid getting caught up, with everything arriving (as an 8-car) within PPM charter except 2S80, 09:09 PAD-SLO which arrived 6 minutes late.
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« Reply #527 on: June 08, 2017, 11:27:11 am »

A quick question for II re Maidenhead signalling with the new layout for 387s et al. if I may?

On the Down Main there are now four diverging routes available from signal 569 (in addition to the Down Main itself): platforms 2 through 5 Platform 2 being the new addition.  How is this route signalled?
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« Reply #528 on: June 08, 2017, 01:37:08 pm »

The route to platform 2 is signalled from 569 signal with an 'X' in a theatre box and no junction indicator.  As it's for reversing movements only I guess they wanted to make it distinctive.  Platforms 3,4 and 5 are indicated by the more standard Junction indicators 4,5 and 6.
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« Reply #529 on: June 08, 2017, 01:53:09 pm »

Thanks II.  That explains the theatre box I saw passing slowly through - and looking back - on the Up Main this morning.
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« Reply #530 on: June 08, 2017, 03:12:35 pm »

Another quick question for II regarding signalling at Maidenhead.

Is signal 575 at west end of platform 2 a fixed red?

If it is I'll report it to Open Train Times as such.

I'll also report dodgy signal-berth 1616 and a few incorrect route settings on the same map as well. 
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« Reply #531 on: June 08, 2017, 03:43:10 pm »

Yes it is.  So is 564 on the down main in the up direction to the east of Maidenhead.
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« Reply #532 on: June 08, 2017, 04:35:32 pm »

The route to platform 2 is signalled from 569 signal with an 'X' in a theatre box and no junction indicator.  As it's for reversing movements only I guess they wanted to make it distinctive.  Platforms 3,4 and 5 are indicated by the more standard Junction indicators 4,5 and 6.
Just to add to this information posted by II.  An 'X' indication usually applies to a limit of shunt or nominally wrong direction movement exit signal.
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« Reply #533 on: June 08, 2017, 11:00:42 pm »

Another disappointing morning of delays and cancellations on arrivals at Paddington and the other GWR routes, though rather surprisingly the Maidenhead/Slough electrics managed to avoid getting caught up, with everything arriving (as an 8-car) within PPM charter except 2S80, 09:09 PAD-SLO which arrived 6 minutes late.

All 'on time' tonight as well, thought he 16:42 and 18:42 PAD-MAI were both cancelled due to a driver shortage - both trains being on the same diagram.
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« Reply #534 on: June 09, 2017, 11:06:04 am »

All Slough/Maidenhead 387s reached their destination within the PPM this morning, indeed all were either early or on time apart from the 09:09 PAD-SLO which arrived three minutes late.

It was an exceptional morning peak all round with many of the sectors reaching the magical 100% PPM.
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« Reply #535 on: June 09, 2017, 11:51:55 am »

Another disappointing morning of delays and cancellations on arrivals at Paddington and the other GWR routes, though rather surprisingly the Maidenhead/Slough electrics managed to avoid getting caught up, with everything arriving (as an 8-car) within PPM charter except 2S80, 09:09 PAD-SLO which arrived 6 minutes late.

All 'on time' tonight as well, thought he 16:42 and 18:42 PAD-MAI were both cancelled due to a driver shortage - both trains being on the same diagram.

......so all "on time"......apart from the ones which were cancelled! 😂.......driver shortage seems to be a growing issue at the moment and not just at the weekend when we're used to it.
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« Reply #536 on: June 09, 2017, 11:59:26 am »

Yes, that's right TG.  And driver shortages are a growing problem currently, though 387 training is currently going at quite a pace there are way too many trains being cancelled company wide for my liking.
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« Reply #537 on: June 09, 2017, 01:31:44 pm »

The route to platform 2 is signalled from 569 signal with an 'X' in a theatre box and no junction indicator.  As it's for reversing movements only I guess they wanted to make it distinctive.  Platforms 3,4 and 5 are indicated by the more standard Junction indicators 4,5 and 6.
Just to add to this information posted by II.  An 'X' indication usually applies to a limit of shunt or nominally wrong direction movement exit signal.

And I suppose I should've used the correct terminology of Standard Route Indicator instead of the rather old fashioned theatre box!  Wink
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« Reply #538 on: June 09, 2017, 04:12:37 pm »

The route to platform 2 is signalled from 569 signal with an 'X' in a theatre box and no junction indicator.  As it's for reversing movements only I guess they wanted to make it distinctive.  Platforms 3,4 and 5 are indicated by the more standard Junction indicators 4,5 and 6.
Just to add to this information posted by II.  An 'X' indication usually applies to a limit of shunt or nominally wrong direction movement exit signal.

And I suppose I should've used the correct terminology of Standard Route Indicator instead of the rather old fashioned theatre box!  Wink

....CfN is going to hate me, but two more abbreviations to add to the Acronyms and other Abbreviations page Tongue:

MARI = Miniature Alphanumeric Route Indicator

SARI = Standard Alphanumeric Route Indicator

A MARI is usually associated with a shunting signal or with subsidiary aspects (e.g. Calling On) on a main running signal

A SARI is usually associated with a main running aspect on a main signal

Like all things on the MDTR, caution is required as there is always the odd exception to the golden rule..... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #539 on: June 09, 2017, 06:28:11 pm »

With regards to the signal we were discussing, there's a MARI on the signal adjacent to that one with it's SARI.
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