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« Reply #180 on: April 05, 2016, 10:12:15 »

Come on, let's be sensible here - how many driving turns are we talking about for the very limited service due to start in May? And how does that stack up against the number of train drivers that HEX employ, who are of course on C of E's that are not intertwined with historic manning agreements etc.
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« Reply #181 on: April 05, 2016, 11:44:13 »

Why should HEX play ball?
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« Reply #182 on: April 05, 2016, 11:48:16 »

Because GWR (Great Western Railway) would pay for their services?  Don't think that it's too likely to happen though.  More likely is that the trains might operate as Turbos with other trains shortens as a result!
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« Reply #183 on: April 05, 2016, 11:51:05 »

Why would GWR (Great Western Railway) do that? And why would HEX want to too? For 4 trains a day?
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« Reply #184 on: April 05, 2016, 11:52:21 »

Well, because if they're public timetabled services, to cancel them would result in charter implications.
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« Reply #185 on: April 05, 2016, 11:53:43 »

Because GWR (Great Western Railway) would pay for their services? 

Apologies, I was referring to this part of your post....
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« Reply #186 on: April 05, 2016, 12:03:23 »

I think there's a few too many hypothetical's in this one, but it's safe to say that GWR (Great Western Railway) would not want 4+ trains a day cancelled for a prolonged period of time and would look at all sensible alternatives, which might include paying for the services of other TOC (Train Operating Company)'s drivers.
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« Reply #187 on: April 05, 2016, 12:32:42 »

I'd agree - but I think turbos are a probable better bet....
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« Reply #188 on: April 05, 2016, 12:43:38 »

Indeed.  As I said myself in post #182.
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« Reply #189 on: April 09, 2016, 14:59:18 »

Talks are in progress with another operator to fill the void should the 387s be delayed. As it currently stands though, 387s are due to be running from May.

I understand that the introduction of Class 387/1^s on the new Hayes shuttles due to start in May will not now happen before September.  I do not know why.

How this new service will now be covered I do not know.  It is, however, worth noting that when the Connect services got cancelled to enable the units to cover the Class 332 problems, GWR (Great Western Railway) stepped in to provide a local stations to/from Hayes service using Turbos and GWR staff.  So, in principle, there is no reason why HEX could not run the new Hayes shuttle if they can provide the necessary staff and units.
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« Reply #190 on: April 09, 2016, 15:32:53 »

Delays in releasing 387/1s from Southern because of some niggles with Thameslink 700 trials is the reason, I'm 99% certain of this based on posts in other forums.

However they aren't extra services, they run in the paths of the Greenford DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit), between Paddington and West Ealing, the existing service would be curtailed to the new West Ealing bay platform while the EMUs (Electric Multiple Unit) operate.  So all they need to do is maintain the status quo beyond the May timetable change date.

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« Reply #191 on: April 09, 2016, 16:29:44 »

Maintaining the status quo may be OK for passengers who currently use the Greenfords, but what about passengers at Hayes, Southall and Hanwell who are expecting (for example) the new 0718 Hayes ^ Padd which was due to be a 387/1 from May? 
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« Reply #192 on: April 09, 2016, 16:49:24 »

Just another example of the fragmented railway.

John Major's government thought they were going to reduce the power of the unions instead they handed ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) a blank cheque.
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« Reply #193 on: April 09, 2016, 17:08:52 »

Maintaining the status quo may be OK for passengers who currently use the Greenfords, but what about passengers at Hayes, Southall and Hanwell who are expecting (for example) the new 0718 Hayes ^ Padd which was due to be a 387/1 from May? 
Has it ever been announced locally yet?   Perhaps only a very small minority of normal existing passengers have even heard of realtimetrains and such like, so won't have a clue yet...

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« Reply #194 on: April 09, 2016, 17:46:49 »

Maintaining the status quo may be OK for passengers who currently use the Greenfords, but what about passengers at Hayes, Southall and Hanwell who are expecting (for example) the new 0718 Hayes ^ Padd which was due to be a 387/1 from May? 
Has it ever been announced locally yet?   Perhaps only a very small minority of normal existing passengers have even heard of realtimetrains and such like, so won't have a clue yet...

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It was in the (mini-)franchise material, wasn't it? So a few more may have read that, or it may have been passed on by local groups or all kinds.
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