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Question: Would you welcome new class 278 trains?  (Voting closed: December 03, 2014, 11:21:24 am)
Yes, they would be good on my line - 4 (7%)
Yes, if it meant more capacity - 16 (28.1%)
Yes, if it meant more services - 12 (21.1%)
Yes, in the right places - 15 (26.3%)
Yes, but not on my line - 4 (7%)
No - 6 (10.5%)
Total Voters: 28

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« Reply #180 on: May 06, 2018, 07:43:35 pm »

Mods ..this presentation is already highlighted in the rumour mill section.
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« Reply #181 on: May 15, 2018, 06:00:34 pm »

And the next contender is ... Eversholt, climbing into bed with Alstom. From Railway gazette.
Alstom and Eversholt plan fuel cell EMUs
15 May 2018

UK: Plans to fit hydrogen fuel cells to redundant electric multiple units were announced by Alstom on May 14. Confirming that ‘hydrogen technologies and solutions will play a key role in our global vision for the future’, the manufacturer said it was working with rolling stock leasing company Eversholt Rail on what it calls ‘the first substantive industry response to the government's challenge to remove diesel rolling stock by 2040’.

Alstom and Eversholt Rail are looking to ‘upcycle’ Class 321 EMUs which will be rendered surplus to requirements following the delivery of a complete new rolling stock fleet for the Greater Anglia franchise over the next two years.

Described as ‘some of the best proven electric trains on the network’, the four-car Class 321s were built at the former British Rail Engineering Ltd works in York between 1988 and 1991. Eversholt had placed a contract in 2015 for Wabtec to refurbish 30 units under its Renatus programme, and to fit new three-phase traction equipment from Kiepe.

The trains would be fitted with hydrogen storage tanks and fuel cells similar to those used on Alstom’s prototype iLint multiple-unit now on test in Germany, for which series orders have already been placed.

'We think the potential long-term application of hydrogen in the UK is very significant’, said Nick Crossfield, Managing Director, Alstom UK & Ireland. ‘Less than 50% of the UK network is electrified. Starting with this conversion, we think hydrogen could offer the right zero carbon solution for many parts of the network.’

I suppose that having been (expensively, no doubt) life extended then retired sooner than (Eversholt) expected makes those 321s prime candidates. If nothing else, the new electric boxes should make them more omnivorous when it comes to the juice.

How many are going to be done is not clear. Another report made it sound like just a couple initially, but as that was City AM it shouldn't be seen as better informed.
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« Reply #182 on: May 16, 2018, 10:47:14 am »

Hoping to visit Vivarail later this month to see the new trains. Will report.
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« Reply #183 on: June 07, 2018, 03:01:52 pm »

Hi all,

Just had an email from Vivarail saying that they are supplying five 3 coach trains to the  new KeolisAmey Wales and Borders franchise. This is copied and pasted below:

Vivarail is delighted to announce that it has been chosen as preferred bidder to supply a fleet of Class 230 D-Trains to KeolisAmey for the Wales and Borders franchise.

The trains will be the first to come into service as part of the new franchise and will demonstrate KeolisAmey’s commitment to providing new, high quality rolling stock to Welsh passengers.
Adrian Shooter, CEO of Vivarail, said “This is a very exciting day for us and we are proud to be supplying the first of the new trains for Wales.
“We know that KeolisAmey want to bring the best new trains to their passengers so our interior layout has been designed to do exactly that.  As well as the wide and spacious carriages the trains will have a Universal Access Toilet, WiFi, air conditioning, USB ports and 3-pin sockets.  There will be a range of seating layouts and plenty of space for bikes and luggage.  With KeolisAmey we have been determined to give passengers the very best travelling experience and the trains they deserve: modern, comfortable, reliable and environmentally-friendly.
“In conjunction with our partners at Creactive we have worked on a livery design that will be seen across the whole fleet.
“Our aim has always been to provide innovative solutions for operators and to that end I’m delighted to announce that our trains will be built as battery/diesel hybrids to cut down on emissions and make use of the exciting new technology we have developed over the past two years.  As the UK’s leading battery train manufacturer we know that emission-free trains are the future and we will continue to spearhead that development.  With this hybrid fleet we will deliver a train that is clean, green and reliable making use of GPS systems to cut out the engines in stations and environmentally-sensitive areas.
“Our trains will come into service in summer 2019 and will form the flagship fleet for Wales and Borders and I look forward to taking the first journey in North Wales next year.
“I would like to congratulate KeolisAmey in their successful bid and thank our many friends from across Wales for their active support over the last few years.”
Colin Lea, Mobilisation Director, KeolisAmey Wales Cymru, said: “We are proud to announce that KeolisAmey and Vivarail will provide a step-change in passenger comfort and service quality on three North Wales routes (Wrexham-Bidston, Conwy Valley, Chester-Crewe) by introducing these units, fitted with the latest passenger comfort appliances such as power supply at all seats, high-speed Wi-Fi, air-cooling, bike spaces, and a brand new seating layout reflecting the needs of the passengers on these routes.
“In addition, these innovative hybrid trains fitted with state of the art monitoring systems, will provide a significant change in performance and reliability, helping KeolisAmey to deliver a more reliable service for its customers.”
Design and build of the 3-car trains is already underway at Vivarail’s two sites and orders have been placed with the leading supplier of Universal Access Toilets based in Cwmbran.   The fleet of 5 trains will move to Wales for final testing and commissioning in early 2019.

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« Reply #184 on: June 07, 2018, 03:06:17 pm »

They will feel really at home in the longest single track tunnel in Wales on the Conwy Valley line  Grin.   And in all seriousness, probably an excellent line for them.

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« Reply #185 on: June 07, 2018, 05:09:15 pm »

Hopefully these trains don’t come with the ‘optional extra’ on train BBQ.
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« Reply #186 on: June 08, 2018, 11:28:11 am »

Seen a pic of the proposed red and white livery, looks quite good.

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« Reply #187 on: June 08, 2018, 03:40:44 pm »

Had my trip to Long Marston.

Saw 230 002 the first three car diesel until for Bedford Bletchley.

Also had ride in the new battery powered unit very quite good acceleration. Could be a winner for self contained lines say <30 miles. I think it will depend on the viability of the charger. The plan is for a docking point in the line which the train sits and receives a charge. For safety it is only activated when the train is directly over it.

Nice disabled loo in three car, Light and airy interiors. Range of seats and layouts from comfortable to ironing boards.

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