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« Reply #165 on: February 18, 2015, 15:25:04 »

They've been to,d the 67s will work in pairs, that could mean double headed or it could mean top n tailed.  I would think they will top and tail otherwise you'll need another loco at Penzance & Paddington.
Top n tail will probably mean one less driver required to shunt from the depots as well.
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« Reply #166 on: February 18, 2015, 17:01:00 »

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That's why I made my comment them being perfectly adequate for the sleeper schedule with its couple of extra coaches.

I am wondering if that would still hold true over the Devon banks? I assume the loco-doubling will address that concern and also provide some resilience - provided that one loco doesn't fail with the banks still to be climbed!
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« Reply #167 on: February 18, 2015, 17:20:32 »

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That's why I made my comment them being perfectly adequate for the sleeper schedule with its couple of extra coaches.

I am wondering if that would still hold true over the Devon banks? I assume the loco-doubling will address that concern and also provide some resilience - provided that one loco doesn't fail with the banks still to be climbed!

Especially in leaf fall season. I don't know prone the Class 67 is to slipping.
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« Reply #168 on: February 18, 2015, 17:49:26 »

How old are the class 67s?
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« Reply #169 on: February 18, 2015, 18:00:13 »

How old are the class 67s?

15 years - introduced 1999 and 2000
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« Reply #170 on: February 18, 2015, 18:02:24 »

How old are the class 67s?

15 years - introduced 1999 and 2000

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« Reply #171 on: February 18, 2015, 18:55:59 »

Class 67^s have a more powerful engine installed than Class 57^s, but of course they have less adhesion because of their weight and they are geared for 125mph against 95 mph for Class 57/3.  One could question why you put 125 mph locos on sleeper trains, but maybe they will be regeared.

Worth noting that a Class 67 has almost twice the continuous tractive effort (ie drawbar pull) of a Class 43 HST (High Speed Train) Power Car. So they aren^t complete wimps. 
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« Reply #172 on: February 18, 2015, 19:25:11 »

One could question why you put 125 mph locos on sleeper trains


Because there is nothing else available and they can't continue with the 57's given their reliability.  When it comes to overhauling the 57's they had to go to South Africa for replacement wheelsets.
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« Reply #173 on: March 06, 2015, 08:17:31 »

So near, yet so far.

The westbound sleeper made it to Truro before being terminated due to technical problems with the loco.
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« Reply #174 on: March 06, 2015, 22:56:34 »

Failed with a GSMR problem on the loco. Thinking it was initially the problem was just in the front cab, a spare driver was shoved in the back cab but it proved to be the whole loco.

A shame after a quite a rosy period of reliability.
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« Reply #175 on: March 06, 2015, 23:54:49 »

A shame after a quite a rosy period of reliability.

Rosy, or rose tinted?

I make it just 20 odd days since the last Night Riviera failure.
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« Reply #176 on: March 07, 2015, 07:13:06 »

A shame after a quite a rosy period of reliability.

Rosy, or rose tinted?

I make it just 20 odd days since the last Night Riviera failure.

That's about a 2000% improvement!
It was at least once every night, if not both every night.
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« Reply #177 on: March 07, 2015, 11:23:51 »

It was touch and go with the down sleeper last night, but in the end a fault was rectified in the nick of time.
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« Reply #178 on: March 07, 2015, 19:02:04 »

FGW (First Great Western) haven't given up on the sleepers however! I think there is some determination here Grin
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« Reply #179 on: March 07, 2015, 20:12:30 »

I'm booked on it on April 12th - and you know what a jinx I am!
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