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Author Topic: Problems with the Night Riviera sleeper - December 2014 onwards  (Read 314940 times)
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« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2015, 19:10:26 »

According to the following link, Great Western Trains ran the Sleeper to and from Waterloo from May 1995 to September 1998.

http://www.avoe05.dsl.pipex.com/Sheepcote%20Lane%20curve.htm

Things were very different 20 years ago.

I believe that the idea of sending the sleeper into Waterloo was partly to connect with Waterloo Eurostar services. About this time there was also a proposed Plymouth to Paris sleeper, remember that?
Arguably there is an untapped market for sleeper and motorail services from London to destinations across Europe and even Asia, just look at some of the sleeper and motorail services that run in Continental Europe, some of which change gauge on route. But I'm going off topic a bit here!  Shocked   
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« Reply #226 on: April 12, 2015, 20:09:42 »

just look at some of the sleeper and motorail services that run in Continental Europe, some of which change gauge on route.

There are no gauge changing sleeper or motorail services in Europe.

Sleeper and motorail services in Europe have been drastically cut in the last few years.
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« Reply #227 on: April 12, 2015, 20:17:12 »

I think (if correctly configured and promoted) a continental sleeper service could prove to be useful to business travellers.  Waking yourself up at 4am to get a taxi to Stansted/Heathrow/Bristol/Gatwick/City/etc for the 7am flight followed by a full day of work isn't ideal.  At least with a sleeper, you get to arrive refreshed.
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« Reply #228 on: April 12, 2015, 20:55:55 »

Such a service was envisaged during Channel Tunnel construction. Some rolling stock was even built.

Nightstar, as it was called, was cancelled due to lack of a business case, rising costs and the need for border controls at regional stations. The rolling stock was sold to Canada.

I think that business case is even worse now.
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« Reply #229 on: April 13, 2015, 05:30:24 »

Back on topic - currntly 29 late, due PAD» (Paddington (London) - next trains) 0537
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« Reply #230 on: April 13, 2015, 07:07:06 »

Meanwhile the down is 40 late at Newton Abbot.
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« Reply #231 on: April 13, 2015, 07:18:31 »

Meanwhile the down is 40 late at Newton Abbot.
that's not to bad compared to back in the winter
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« Reply #232 on: April 13, 2015, 19:33:37 »

It was 31 late at Truro this morning, so made a bit up.
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« Reply #233 on: April 13, 2015, 23:48:11 »

Still missed the St Ives connection at St Erth by less than a minute.
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« Reply #234 on: April 14, 2015, 07:19:04 »

Still missed the St Ives connection at St Erth by less than a minute.

I've seen this so many times not just with the sleeper but any service.
Last week I watched the St Ives train pull away as passengers were about half way along the up platform from a 6 minute late down train.
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« Reply #235 on: April 14, 2015, 09:17:33 »

The problem with the StIves Branch is that it is quite an intensive service back and fro that any delay could make the shuttle late for the rest of the day.
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« Reply #236 on: April 14, 2015, 11:36:43 »

Indeed so, during the day there will never be more than a 30 min. wait for the next one.

I was in the area over Easter, the St Ives Branch was massively busy at times.
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« Reply #237 on: April 14, 2015, 11:46:29 »

Indeed so, during the day there will never be more than a 30 min. wait for the next one.

I was just unlucky. The only 40 min daytime gap -   09:38 and then 10:18
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« Reply #238 on: April 14, 2015, 12:14:24 »

Indeed so, during the day there will never be more than a 30 min. wait for the next one.

I was just unlucky. The only 40 min daytime gap -   09:38 and then 10:18
I guess the driver and guard need a minute or two for a cuppa now and again...
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« Reply #239 on: April 14, 2015, 13:25:53 »

I don't know if it is usual practice but yesterday they had a driver each end which saved time at the turn rounds.
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