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Author Topic: Problems with the Night Riviera sleeper - December 2014 onwards  (Read 315191 times)
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« Reply #240 on: April 14, 2015, 17:14:15 »

I don't know if it is usual practice but yesterday they had a driver each end which saved time at the turn rounds.
Thats done quite often (mostly in the summer months) as due to the crowds on the platform and getting off the train at St.Ives it would be impossible for the driver to reach the other end in the short turnaround time Wink
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« Reply #241 on: April 14, 2015, 17:21:58 »

I don't know if it is usual practice but yesterday they had a driver each end which saved time at the turn rounds.
Thats done quite often (mostly in the summer months) as due to the crowds on the platform and getting off the train at St.Ives it would be impossible for the driver to reach the other end in the short turnaround time Wink

Is the limit up to 4 carriages max due the length of lelant and carbis bay platforms cus I've only ever seen 4 carriages
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« Reply #242 on: April 14, 2015, 21:44:11 »

I don't know if it is usual practice but yesterday they had a driver each end which saved time at the turn rounds.
Thats done quite often (mostly in the summer months) as due to the crowds on the platform and getting off the train at St.Ives it would be impossible for the driver to reach the other end in the short turnaround time Wink

Is the limit up to 4 carriages max due the length of lelant and carbis bay platforms cus I've only ever seen 4 carriages

I can only find up to 4 carriages in pictures on Flickr, except this 2+11 in 1995. Some kind of charter I guess.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25025911@N08/16311972734/in/photolist-8xikzn-qX6DVc-gpNSQG-atcTvm-8nH4Dv-pkzQus-75aH35-pVgnqC-atcTXy-onyd3F-756LcH-qExiKC-qEDe7B-qEDeKk-rL99mA-6Sqm9p-p68tx4-p681kG-4ou7gw-8ReefG-aiojVE-g8wT8W-75awqw-djDtkt-75ati5-756ydc-pnBunM-p68j2S-pnkgpF-adBz1X-qRr8cd-pkrxBi-fCauVU-75at6d-75aCch-75aBYh-9uaaxS-pnk3LK-pnAgmL-p689pg-p68sr9-p68sHt-p689bF-g8vThT-ehbXMH-fpbLe5-q1j13R-qEEWTt-8xzYFt-fzD9Qu/
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« Reply #243 on: April 14, 2015, 22:36:21 »


This must be a particularly steamy image as it is flagged as "Adult Content" and you have to sign in to see it.  Cheesy
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« Reply #244 on: April 14, 2015, 22:55:39 »


It's 37696, she isn't puffing out much steam though....

I've noticed that a lot on Flickr, where innocent pictures are flagged adult content. I was looking through pictures of old volvos and 3 were marked adult. Yet i innocently stumbled across pictures of what I thought should be adult completely unflagged.
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« Reply #245 on: April 17, 2015, 23:58:20 »

just look at some of the sleeper and motorail services that run in Continental Europe, some of which change gauge on route.

There are no gauge changing sleeper or motorail services in Europe.

Sleeper and motorail services in Europe have been drastically cut in the last few years.
Apologies, my knowledge of European services is a couple of years out of date.
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« Reply #246 on: April 18, 2015, 00:03:42 »

I don't know if it is usual practice but yesterday they had a driver each end which saved time at the turn rounds.
Thats done quite often (mostly in the summer months) as due to the crowds on the platform and getting off the train at St.Ives it would be impossible for the driver to reach the other end in the short turnaround time Wink

Is the limit up to 4 carriages max due the length of lelant and carbis bay platforms cus I've only ever seen 4 carriages

I can only find up to 4 carriages in pictures on Flickr, except this 2+11 in 1995. Some kind of charter I guess.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25025911@N08/16311972734/in/photolist-8xikzn-qX6DVc-gpNSQG-atcTvm-8nH4Dv-pkzQus-75aH35-pVgnqC-atcTXy-onyd3F-756LcH-qExiKC-qEDe7B-qEDeKk-rL99mA-6Sqm9p-p68tx4-p681kG-4ou7gw-8ReefG-aiojVE-g8wT8W-75awqw-djDtkt-75ati5-756ydc-pnBunM-p68j2S-pnkgpF-adBz1X-qRr8cd-pkrxBi-fCauVU-75at6d-75aCch-75aBYh-9uaaxS-pnk3LK-pnAgmL-p689pg-p68sr9-p68sHt-p689bF-g8vThT-ehbXMH-fpbLe5-q1j13R-qEEWTt-8xzYFt-fzD9Qu/

For most of the eighties the St Ives tended to be a pair of 'Heritage units' in the summer which meant you could get either 2+2 or 2+3 or 3+3 carriage formations. (mind you platform lengths weren't such an issue in those days) Shocked
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« Reply #247 on: April 21, 2015, 23:48:39 »

Something a bit different tonight - the westbound sleeper is starting from Bristol Temple Meads tonight due to staff sickness.

The 23:30 from Paddington was held back 15 minutes to provide a connection into it.
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« Reply #248 on: April 22, 2015, 07:44:47 »

Something a bit different tonight - the westbound sleeper is starting from Bristol Temple Meads tonight due to staff sickness.

The 23:30 from Paddington was held back 15 minutes to provide a connection into it.

 Huh

There has to be a plausable reason, but I cannot think of one!  Any offers anyone?
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« Reply #249 on: April 22, 2015, 08:30:18 »

Something a bit different tonight - the westbound sleeper is starting from Bristol Temple Meads tonight due to staff sickness.

The 23:30 from Paddington was held back 15 minutes to provide a connection into it.

 Huh

There has to be a plausable reason, but I cannot think of one!  Any offers anyone?



Considering the crew for the sleeper come up working a service from Exeter, anything could of happened to make them report sick on arrival.
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« Reply #250 on: April 22, 2015, 08:54:30 »

......food poisoning from the buffet? Gastroenteritis from using one of the filthy toilets? Any number of possibilities!  Cheesy

More seriously though, surely there should be a backup/standby resource to cover for these circumstances?

Presumably those with berths will be refunded as they won't have got a lot of sleep?
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« Reply #251 on: April 22, 2015, 13:02:17 »

If the sleeper crew start at the depot, and work a train to Exeter, then I would expect that spare crew ARE available at the depot in case of sickness etc resulting in non arrival.
I doubt that it would be viable however to have spare crew AT Exeter in case one of the crew falls ill en-route.

Usually, if train crew or indeed other staff, arrive fit for work at the proper time then they will remain fit for the rest of the shift. If however someone arrives fit for work, but becomes unfit during the shift, then cancellation or curtailment of a train may be unavoidable.
And yes food poisoning can occur very suddenly part way through a shift, typically within a few hours of eating the tainted food, hopefully not from a train buffet.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #252 on: April 23, 2015, 21:59:08 »

Do I understand correctly that a Mr Cameron made use of the down sleeper last night?

No doubt it ran like clockwork otherwise we would have heard about it.
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« Reply #253 on: April 23, 2015, 22:04:17 »

If the Daily Mail is to be believed, he did - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3052000/David-Cameron-gets-night-train-Penzance-looking-dishevelled.html

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David Cameron likes to project an image as the 'chillaxing' statesman unruffled by political troubles - but this morning his usual demeanour seemed to desert him as he donned a bizarre outfit on the campaign trail.

The Prime Minister looked exhausted as he stepped off the sleeper train at Penzance today, ahead of a speech in which he delivered his 'plan for Cornwall'.

The Conservatives are battling against their Coalition partners in the South-West as they seek to wrest control of key constituencies from the Liberal Democrats.

But Mr Cameron is still trailing Ed Miliband's Labour Party nationally, with just 14 days to go until polling day.



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« Reply #254 on: April 23, 2015, 22:04:45 »

Do I understand correctly that a Mr Cameron made use of the down sleeper last night?

No doubt it ran like clockwork otherwise we would have heard about it.

Wow, you wrote this at least 3 minutes after I read it. Time now 9.58pm
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