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Author Topic: Problems with the Night Riviera sleeper - December 2014 onwards  (Read 318073 times)
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« Reply #270 on: May 16, 2015, 21:12:17 »

There are no gauge changing sleeper or motorail services in Europe.

Sleeper and motorail services in Europe have been drastically cut in the last few years.
Apologies, my knowledge of European services is a couple of years out of date.

Almost... But not quite.

The Europe - Russia sleeper changes gauge at Brest on the Polish - Belorussian border. Sleeper cars are jacked up one by one and the gauges are changed.

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Russian track gauge is 5', but most of Europe (including the UK (United Kingdom)) is 4' 8^", so at Brest on the Belarus frontier the sleeping-cars are shunted into a shed, each car is separated and jacked up to have its bogies (wheelsets) changed. You remain on board while this is done, quite an experience.  Once in Russia, the scenery is rolling hills, birch tree forests, and villages of small wooden houses.  Approaching Moscow, you may catch a glimpse of the plaques on the station building marked '1812' and '1942' as the train passes through the small station of historic Borodino...  Map of Moscow showing Byelorruski station.

http://www.seat61.com/Russia.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2plrM6dOcTQ

Also in Spain, many Alvia and Altaris trains change gauge on route. I know for certain this is true for Madrid - Alicante and Madrid - Murcia having done both routes. Train goes through a metal shed which changes the gauge as the train passes through. This is done at relatively slow speed for a Long Distance InterCity service. But with a station call shortly before/after (depending which direction you travel) the gauge changer it doesn't really impact on time of journey Smiley
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« Reply #271 on: June 18, 2015, 05:53:42 »

Ouch.........nice lie-in for some I guess.


23:45 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:53

This train has been delayed from London Paddington and is now 205 minutes late.
This is due to a train fault.
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« Reply #272 on: June 18, 2015, 10:12:44 »

Only an hour late in the end
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« Reply #273 on: June 18, 2015, 10:59:40 »

Yes I saw that it had made up time, missed out most of the smaller Cornish stations too which helped - any idea what the problem was?
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« Reply #274 on: June 18, 2015, 12:02:36 »

There was a defect with one of the sleeper berth carriages. The set had to return empty to Old Oak to shunt out the defective carriage.

Less of a lie-in for passengers, more like very late to bed.
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« Reply #275 on: June 18, 2015, 14:42:24 »

Yes I saw that it had made up time, missed out most of the smaller Cornish stations too which helped - any idea what the problem was?

Helped who exactly?  Presumably not those who rely on the sleeper stopping at the smaller Cornish Stations to get to work.
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« Reply #276 on: June 18, 2015, 14:48:57 »

Yes I saw that it had made up time, missed out most of the smaller Cornish stations too which helped - any idea what the problem was?

Helped who exactly?  Presumably not those who rely on the sleeper stopping at the smaller Cornish Stations to get to work.

Sorry I mean it "helped" the sleeper make up time........I should have used inverted commas first time around!  Smiley
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« Reply #277 on: July 22, 2015, 08:30:09 »

Up Sleeper loco failed between Bodmin Parkway and Liskeard last night. 57604 Pendennis Castle was the errant loco.

Back to back HST (High Speed Train) power cars were sent from Laira to rescue the set. Arrived Liskeard 160 late.

Passengers woken and detrained at Plymouth and transferred to a HST for onward travel to London. Stops at Totnes, Newton Abbot and Taunton were omitted. Arrived Paddington 50 late.

As a consequence of substituting the Up Sleeper with a HST set the 0712 Taunton - London Paddington via stations to Bristol TM(resolve) was cancelled.
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« Reply #278 on: July 22, 2015, 08:43:21 »

As a result the 07:12 from Taunton to London Paddington was cancelled as the HST (High Speed Train) set had been used for the sleeper.
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« Reply #279 on: July 22, 2015, 16:57:48 »

Read on Facebook that an electrical fire was the cause.

57605 is also due to return to OOC (Old Oak Common (depot)) from Derby this week following its refit.
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« Reply #280 on: July 23, 2015, 06:35:13 »

The up sleeper failed again last night, loss of lighting in the carriages. Currently in platform 7 at Plymouth as at 0615 this morning. Believe passengers got a HST (High Speed Train) again.
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« Reply #281 on: July 23, 2015, 06:43:28 »

Which once again appears to have affected the 07:12 from Taunton
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« Reply #282 on: July 23, 2015, 08:56:16 »

The up sleeper failed again last night, loss of lighting in the carriages. Currently in platform 7 at Plymouth as at 0615 this morning. Believe passengers got a HST (High Speed Train) again.

............that'll be a few more customers choosing to drive/fly from Newquay in future then?
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« Reply #283 on: July 23, 2015, 14:04:33 »

This is a very poor performance indeed.
Any reasonable person would accept that things go wrong, but it really should not be happening this often.

Is the great re-branding just cosmetic WRT (with regard to ) the sleeper ? or will it include things like engines that can make it all the way regularly.

With the SETs (Super Express Train (now IET)) soon to replace some of the HSTs (High Speed Train) on daytime services, perhaps it might be worth considering use of HST power cars on the sleeper instead of conventional locomotives.
This is a non trivial alteration on account of the different electrical systems, but it might be worth re wiring sleeper stock so as to utilise 3 phase auxiliary power as produced by HSTs
Having a standard power car at each end would avoid the time taken in detaching and coupling an engine as at present, and would permit of easy reversals en-route when engineering work requires this.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #284 on: July 23, 2015, 16:24:22 »

A costly and short-term solution I'd have thought?  Better to lease/buy some Class 68s, which seem to be settling in quite well on Chiltern?
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