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Author Topic: Problems with the Night Riviera sleeper - December 2014 onwards  (Read 315012 times)
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« Reply #300 on: August 18, 2015, 10:52:07 »

I don't know which loco was involved this morning, but the previous night's up sleeper was delayed at Penzance while an oil leak was fixed on 57602 Restormel Castle.

Let's hope a few of the recent seven additional Class 68s ordered by DRS (Direct Rail Services Ltd) can find a home hauling the sleeper service so the worn out 57s can finally be retired:

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« Reply #301 on: August 18, 2015, 12:12:34 »

I don't know which loco was involved this morning, but the previous night's up sleeper was delayed at Penzance while an oil leak was fixed on 57602 Restormel Castle.

This morning's errant loco was 57605 Totnes Castle.
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« Reply #302 on: August 18, 2015, 13:35:08 »

Just to correct my earlier post. The oil leak was fixed at Plymouth not Penzance. Got my "P"s muddled up.
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« Reply #303 on: August 18, 2015, 15:33:18 »

Just to correct my earlier post. The oil leak was fixed at Plymouth not Penzance. Got my "P"s muddled up.

Mixing up Plymouth and Penzance? Men have been shot for less!!!  Grin
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« Reply #304 on: August 18, 2015, 18:04:50 »

I don't know which loco was involved this morning, but the previous night's up sleeper was delayed at Penzance while an oil leak was fixed on 57602 Restormel Castle.

Let's hope a few of the recent seven additional Class 68s ordered by DRS (Direct Rail Services Ltd) can find a home hauling the sleeper service so the worn out 57s can finally be retired:

I understand that FGW (First Great Western) won't accept a DRS loco, which has already ruled 67s out, because DRS would insist on their own drivers.

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/traction-rolling-stock/single-view/view/uk-and-italian-operators-order-vossloh-locomotives.html?cHash=be53496d2893eb5bdfad8350348e26ed&Continue=1
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« Reply #305 on: August 18, 2015, 18:09:52 »

Not sure why that would be the case?  Chiltern's hired in 68s use their own drivers.
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« Reply #306 on: August 19, 2015, 22:16:33 »

I understand that FGW (First Great Western) won't accept a DRS (Direct Rail Services Ltd) loco, which has already ruled 67s out, because DRS would insist on their own drivers.
Eh? I didn't think DRS had any 67s, I thought the 67s were all DB» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about) locos. And the temporary class 57/3s used on the sleeper are DRS locos, aren't they...
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« Reply #307 on: August 21, 2015, 18:04:36 »

I understand that FGW (First Great Western) won't accept a DRS (Direct Rail Services Ltd) loco, which has already ruled 67s out, because DRS would insist on their own drivers.
Eh? I didn't think DRS had any 67s, I thought the 67s were all DB» (Deutsche Bahn - German State Railway - about) locos. And the temporary class 57/3s used on the sleeper are DRS locos, aren't they...

Got my letters mixed up !!!
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« Reply #308 on: September 05, 2015, 12:32:26 »

Problems with the westbound sleeper overnight.  First the rear loco - 57303 Pride of Carlisle - failed in platform one having brought the stock in from Old Oak Common and had to be towed back to the depot by an empty HST (High Speed Train) after the sleeper had departed.

Then the loco at the head of the sleeper came to stand near Lostwithiel but finally managed to limp on to Par where it terminated nearly three hours late.

Caused a few delays and cancellations in Cornwall this morning - including of course the loco and coaches shuttle, which was due to run for the last time this summer today.
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« Reply #309 on: September 05, 2015, 18:52:29 »

I noticed the sleeper waiting at the Truro down home signal at 1018 presumably waiting for the Falmouth 1020 to leave. It was hauled by two power cars and a dead 57. The sleeper is so unreliable and the first train to Penzance at 0706 from Truro that I have had to stop using the train this summer. Unbelievably for a main line in the middle of the holiday season the next train is not until 0942. If the improvements promised for December 2018 come about that cannot be soon enough. I will not believe it until I hear the re signalling project is announced.
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« Reply #310 on: September 05, 2015, 19:03:28 »

I'm usually a jinx when it comes to the sleeper - but last Wednesday night I made it from Paddington to Penzance without incident.  The train was hauled by 57303 which failed on the blocks at Paddington last night.  Three days before I travelled I saw the same loco on the nuclear flask train heading north - although it had another 57 with it.  I think that is standard procedure in case of failure given that you don't really need two locos to haul two wagons.
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« Reply #311 on: September 05, 2015, 20:37:21 »

Three days before I travelled I saw the same loco on the nuclear flask train heading north - although it had another 57 with it.  I think that is standard procedure in case of failure given that you don't really need two locos to haul two wagons.
Two locomotives (not always 57s, often 37s and sometimes other types, such as 66s) does indeed appear to be standard procedure for flask trains, although I think I have read of single locos hauling flasks so double-heading isn't compulsary.
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« Reply #312 on: September 05, 2015, 21:57:02 »

I'm usually a jinx when it comes to the sleeper - but last Wednesday night I made it from Paddington to Penzance without incident.  The train was hauled by 57303 which failed on the blocks at Paddington last night.  Three days before I travelled I saw the same loco on the nuclear flask train heading north - although it had another 57 with it.  I think that is standard procedure in case of failure given that you don't really need two locos to haul two wagons.

Where was the flask train because 57303 has been solidly working the Sleepers for weeks now and should have been nowhere except between Paddington and Penzance.
I suspect you could have been mistaken.
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« Reply #313 on: September 05, 2015, 22:44:57 »

I'm usually a jinx when it comes to the sleeper - but last Wednesday night I made it from Paddington to Penzance without incident.  The train was hauled by 57303 which failed on the blocks at Paddington last night.  Three days before I travelled I saw the same loco on the nuclear flask train heading north - although it had another 57 with it.  I think that is standard procedure in case of failure given that you don't really need two locos to haul two wagons.

Where was the flask train because 57303 has been solidly working the Sleepers for weeks now and should have been nowhere except between Paddington and Penzance.
I suspect you could have been mistaken.

57303 is on long term lone to FGW (First Great Western) to cover for there 57's.
As for there being 2 loco's on the flasks NR» (Network Rail - home page) want 2 on each train due to the nature of the load in case of problems.
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« Reply #314 on: September 06, 2015, 02:25:38 »

Got my dates muddled. It was the week before, 26th August. Seen going through Bristol Parkway just before 12:30. It was, however, definitely 57303.
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