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« Reply #375 on: June 17, 2016, 15:16:03 »

ive been told that last nights up terminated at Reading, there is driver shortages to move an ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) until Sunday, with one set stuck in OLd Oak Common depot.
Tomorrows 57 day coach service par-Plymouth Plymouth- Exeter and Exeter - penZance won't run with a 57 as no 57 set in Cornwall.
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« Reply #376 on: June 17, 2016, 16:47:25 »

and where do they get extra Mk3 seated coaches from?

Perhaps (some of) the ones used for the daytime loco hauled service ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #377 on: June 17, 2016, 16:52:31 »

and where do they get extra Mk3 seated coaches from?

Perhaps (some of) the ones used for the daytime loco hauled service ?

Which are the same seated ones used in the night time sleeper. There isn't an extra set!
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« Reply #378 on: June 17, 2016, 16:58:37 »

What daytime service? I wasn't aware they ran one?
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« Reply #379 on: June 17, 2016, 17:14:40 »

What daytime service? I wasn't aware they ran one?

They do, but the post above advises that the coaches used are the same ones used at night, I thought that they were additional.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #380 on: June 17, 2016, 17:31:18 »

so what time & where does it go (which is what I was after)
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« Reply #381 on: June 17, 2016, 17:43:37 »

Plymouth to Exeter I believe.
Here's a clip from Dawlish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15pj971_8is
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« Reply #382 on: June 17, 2016, 17:52:30 »

Par to Plymouth, Plymouth to exeter, Exeter to Penzance. Summer Saturday only to free up a 150.
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« Reply #383 on: June 17, 2016, 18:09:27 »

Par to Plymouth, Plymouth to exeter, Exeter to Penzance. Summer Saturday only to free up a 150.

2P70 PAR 1125 - PLY» (Plymouth - next trains) 1229
2E75 PLY 1335 - EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) 1453

2C51 EXD 1750 - PNZ 21112P70 PAR 1125 - PLY 1229
2E75 PLY 1335 - EXD 1453

2C51 EXD 1750 - PNZ 2111

This is the second year it has run.   All the enthusiasts are itching to know what is working it each Saturday.
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« Reply #384 on: September 03, 2016, 08:58:52 »

Last nights 'up' failed at Penzanxe. HST (High Speed Train) ran in its place with the 0650 Penzance to Paddington cancelled this Morning due to one HST short.
Expect a daytime stock move over the weekend in time for Sunday night down as both sets are currently in Penzance,
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« Reply #385 on: September 03, 2016, 10:19:03 »

Last nights 'up' failed at Penzanxe. HST (High Speed Train) ran in its place with the 0650 Penzance to Paddington cancelled this Morning due to one HST short.
Expect a daytime stock move over the weekend in time for Sunday night down as both sets are currently in Penzance,

Too simplistic to fix overnight and run the 06:50 with the sleeper set?  Minimal knock-ons if it's a bit slow as the HST for the outbound diagram from Paddington's already in London!
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« Reply #386 on: September 03, 2016, 10:32:59 »

Last nights 'up' failed at Penzanxe. HST (High Speed Train) ran in its place with the 0650 Penzance to Paddington cancelled this Morning due to one HST short.
Expect a daytime stock move over the weekend in time for Sunday night down as both sets are currently in Penzance,

Too simplistic to fix overnight and run the 06:50 with the sleeper set?  Minimal knock-ons if it's a bit slow as the HST for the outbound diagram from Paddington's already in London!

There would certainly be traincrew problems in addition to the type of accomodation
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« Reply #387 on: September 03, 2016, 10:39:41 »

In addition it only has two day (seated) coaches so might be a bit problematic with passenger loadings.
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« Reply #388 on: September 03, 2016, 10:50:59 »

In addition it only has two day (seated) coaches so might be a bit problematic with passenger loadings.

At that time in the morning, some of the punters might have been quite happy with a bed instead of a seat...  Wink
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« Reply #389 on: October 26, 2016, 13:13:23 »

I expect there have been a few "please explain" notes flying around today after the sleeper was delayed in Wiltshire last night.

It was booked to go through Melksham but a freight was coming up the branch with another on the main line waiting for it to clear Thingley Junction.  In the meantime the sleeper was crossed to the Up reversible line at Wootton Bassett which meant when it got to Thingley East there was nowhere for it to go except on towards Bath as it was blocking the path for the freight to leave the single line.

So the sleeper was sent on to Bristol Temple Meads, where because of engineering work on the line through Bridgwater, the loco changed ends and it came back through Bath to reach Westbury via Bathampton Junction and Bradford on Avon.

The end result was it was an hour late in Penzance.
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