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If it was the solid state signalling then that technology dates from 1985 but has been further developed since then and its application on Thames Valley at the earliest dates from the mid 1990s. I don't call that old. I have heard others saying that the 1990's installation was done on the cheap by RT. I am beginning to believe that the fundamental problem is NR» has lost all of its skilled and experienced staff and that is the basis of the, and its, problems. Of course never admit that, so blame it on the equipment..........
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« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2015, 02:11:44 » |
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Now if you were talking about mechanical signalling in Cornwall which in some cases is over 100 years old then that is a different matter.
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« Reply #107 on: April 11, 2015, 05:59:12 » |
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I am beginning to believe that the fundamental problem is NR» has lost all of its skilled and experienced staff and that is the basis of the, and its, problems. Of course never admit that, so blame it on the equipment..........
Did NR loose them? I heard it was RT decision not to do major signalling upgrades that caused many to leave.
We too were told by an NR employee that they've lost all their experience and skilled staff through a constant drive to cut costs. As he put it "if it's anything more than changing a fuse, we're stuck" |
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« Reply #108 on: April 11, 2015, 10:55:50 » |
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If so, where have they gone? Overseas? Because they presumably aren't working for contractors in the UK▸ , otherwise NR» would be hiring those contractors.
And if they've retired, wouldn't they have done so if still with NR?
No, that isn't quite the answer
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« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2015, 11:17:06 » |
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Early retirement, voluntary redundancy, internal promotion, moves to a different region and I'm sure some of the skills will be transferable to different industries, there are even a few who are now drivers!!
Would be interesting to know what morale is actually like within NR» .
When you look at those pictures NR tweeted during the Easter work the signalling work was undertaken by contractors. When it fails you get NR staff trying to figure out, understand and fix a system they didn't install. That can't be beneficial.
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« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2015, 08:48:24 » |
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Cancellations to services between London Paddington and Hayes & Harlington Due to signalling problems between London Paddington and Hayes & Harlington some lines are blocked. Impact: Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. An estimate for the resumption of normal services will be provided as soon as the problem has been fully assessed. .............doesn't bode well for a seamless return to "normal service" tomorrow.....  |
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« Reply #111 on: April 12, 2015, 08:49:37 » |
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Apparently it involves the set of points needed for today's Paddington to Hayes & Harlington shuttle to turnback at Hayes.
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« Reply #112 on: April 12, 2015, 10:13:33 » |
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Looking at Journeycheck it seems completely knackered for the foreseable
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« Reply #113 on: April 12, 2015, 15:43:47 » |
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I am beginning to believe that the fundamental problem is NR» has lost all of its skilled and experienced staff and that is the basis of the, and its, problems. Of course never admit that, so blame it on the equipment..........
You may not have to believe anymore... https://twitter.com/networkrailgwrm/status/587254400009293824  |
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« Reply #114 on: April 12, 2015, 16:40:45 » |
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I am beginning to believe that the fundamental problem is NR» has lost all of its skilled and experienced staff and that is the basis of the, and its, problems. Of course never admit that, so blame it on the equipment..........
It is not only within S & T that has this problem, E & P has some acute shortages how NR are going to find the OLE▸ and Distribution staff to maintain and fault find the GWEp when it is completed is a concern to some. The industry is suffering from the skills vacuum generated in the 1980 / 90's when the government of the day removed the funding for the like of the EITB and CITB etc also numerous Technical Collages closed; the previous generation the 1960 / 70 trained people (ie my generation) have done their 40 years in the pension scheme and are looking for or have already found door marked exit. If we also add into the mix the turmoil that privatisation caused in the industry where RT and many of the contractors that took the staff on just wanted to reduce costs so many people just went through redundancy and not come back to the industry. |
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #115 on: April 12, 2015, 16:55:06 » |
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......went past Maidenhead station today and noticed that they were using normal (Reading) single deck buses rather than coaches for the rail replacement service to Didcot.....not particularly comfortable for a long haul!!!
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« Reply #116 on: April 12, 2015, 16:56:40 » |
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Reading Buses single deckers are a lot more comfortable than a lot of other single deckers in Berkshire, but I agree still not ideal - but what is the alternative?
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« Reply #117 on: April 12, 2015, 17:05:49 » |
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Reading Buses single deckers are a lot more comfortable than a lot of other single deckers in Berkshire, but I agree still not ideal - but what is the alternative?
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« Reply #118 on: April 12, 2015, 20:51:02 » |
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Problems on the diversion line at Princes Risborough: A signalling problem at Princes Risborough is causing delays of up to 45 minutes to trains between Banbury and London Marylebone / London Paddington. This is expected to continue until 21:00.
First Great Western services between London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads / Swansea are being diverted via this route due to planned engineering works taking place. The 1520 Swansea-Paddington currently running 75 minutes late. The service behind this train, the 1730 from Bristol 40 minutes down with the 1621 from Swansea leaving Banbury 55 minutes down. Disappointing end to otherwise mainly successful diversions both the via Banbury and West Country to Waterloo services. |
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« Reply #119 on: April 12, 2015, 21:50:51 » |
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.......the previous generation the 1960 / 70 trained people (ie my generation) have done their 40 years in the pension scheme and are looking for or have already found door marked exit. If we also add into the mix the turmoil that privatisation caused in the industry where RT and many of the contractors that took the staff on just wanted to reduce costs so many people just went through redundancy and not come back to the industry. Yep. You can count me as one of that 1960/70s generation that did find the exit door (some 5 years ago now)..........   Much better working for a consultancy and less stressful and (mostly) blame culture free which means you turn out good quality work and not rubbish |
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