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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2019, 10:58:29 pm »

Thanks, Stuving.  As usual we would probably not of heard about this latest incident on the foreign railway network had you not alerted us to it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2019, 01:12:40 pm »

Last night there was even an overnight TGV: Paris to Grenoble, 11 hours late. It spent the night at Lyon-Saint-Exupéry (so it does have a use!), and even then couldn't use the direct route. While that's due to reopen today, the Chambéry-Grenoble line (and other minor ones) will take several days to clear.

All due to trees felled by last night's storm, which was apparently quite spectacular - there was even a near-shipwreck on Lake Annecy. So most people have been have been understanding of SNCF's problems, with the obvious exception of the passengers involved.
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2019, 03:35:10 pm »

And it's getting worse ... the main line from Lyon to Turin, via the Fréjus tunnel, has been closed for "several weeks" by a mud slide (near les Sordieres). Does it really look such a huge heap as that? It wasn't even big enough to cross the railway and invade the autoroute right next to it. This is originally an SNCF image:
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2019, 03:54:14 pm »

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Does it really look such a huge heap as that?

....but it might be because of what's still about to slide down the hill/mountainside above the track that they will need to stabilise first!
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2019, 07:48:23 pm »

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Does it really look such a huge heap as that?

....but it might be because of what's still about to slide down the hill/mountainside above the track that they will need to stabilise first!

I think you're right - having just seen some overhead footage, there's a fence further up the slope that's holding back a lot more of that ...  stuff ... so what's on the track is just the overflow. And it has now oozed onto the near carriageway of the road (A43). And there's more rain forecast for the Alps; not on the same scale but it only needs to top up the lubrication.

This of course is the main rail link between France and Italy: three TGVs, a limited TER service, but a lot of freight (per day each way).
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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2019, 03:48:50 pm »

This of course is the main rail link between France and Italy: three TGVs, a limited TER service, but a lot of freight (per day each way).

Coincidentally, one of the other France-Italy lines was in the news today: Nice-Tende. French trains used to run onward to Turin but no longer do, but Italian ones still run from Ventimiglia into France to join the line and then through to Turin. I imagine displaced TGVs will use the coast line, which might also take goods traffic, though it involves flogging along the full length of  the Riviera. But the gradients, loops, and wiggles of the line to Tende (Train des Merveilles) would put off any heavy train.

The trouble with the line is the usual one - most of the year it has only a handful of passengers. Fares only cover about 7% of costs, and both the region and their audit body think the subsidy has to be reduced. Currently it's the usual SNCF approach of no closures, but more trains will be buses.

That's all happening across France, but this is PACA* - and the region has been having a long bout of arm-wrestling with SNCF over the cost and performance of their services. They threatened an open competition, but in the end found a legal process that let them requisition SNCF in some way rather than negotiating a contract. I've no idea how that works, but after three years they have a new agreement.

Politically PACA is a mixture of extremes - left-wing strongholds in Marseille and Toulon, but right (very in parts) elsewhere. Its transport policy is a mix too, and used to include 1€ bus tickets across the region (but only if you asked for one).

In passing, I note that Nice airport is to be multimodalised, with on-site buses (which used to stop on the road outside), trams, and trains at a station moved from St Augustin.

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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2019, 08:16:24 pm »

Well, it missed the peak off-to-holiday traffic, but it still happened. A two-hour loss of power outside Bordeaux-St-Jean, stopping all trains in and out. One train was within walking distance along the track, as a lot of the passengers confirmed, though there were 15 TGVs stopped in all. However, I suspect most of those still had power, just nowhere to go. The reason was a bit odd: some issue on the pantograph of a train in the depot led to the power locally being switched off. I have no information as to why it was off for so long over all the running lines.

Meanwhile... (actually last Thursday) 30 km away at Libourne, the press thought they'd found a juicy little story: a driver had hit his limit of hours and abandoned his goods train in the station - and it was carrying armoured vehicles for the Bastille Day parade which needed to be guarded at all times! More than that, it was operated by a private company, which is a new idea in France. But later on SNCF sheepishly admitted it was theirs, but claimed the line was OK to use as a goods loop, and the train arrived by the promised time even if it took four hours to get another driver there.

I guess Frét SNCF now have to apply to SNCF Réseau for one-off paths in the same way as other operators. Incidentally, on Frét SCNF's landing page it says:
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Our sales teams are ready to help you meet your challenges, both locally and internationally. We’re present throughout France, and our offices are open 24/7, so we can track your shipments in real time.
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2019, 02:02:21 pm »

I see from https://www.sncf.com/en/booking-itinerary/traffic-info/gl that SNCF hope to restore the through TGV services to Italy via Modane gradually from July 23 onwards.
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