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Author Topic: Newly restored "Flying Scotsman" back in service - ongoing discussion  (Read 112508 times)
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2016, 15:19:10 »

...I also think it looks wrong...

The trouble with the Flipping Wastomoney is that it's always wrong - you either get a combination of livery and equipment that's right but steams badly, or one that's wrong but works.
Whilst I believe that any restoration should be done respecting historical fact, if modifications to the original design/livery are 'within reason' and do not make a mockery then so be it. For instance, some preserved lines paint rolling stock in their own livery, but the trains are still attracting visitors. Also, Tornado was originally introduced in LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) green, with the LNER lettering on the tender, but carried the number 60163. It was still extremely popular!
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2016, 16:01:59 »

Tried earlier to book two seats on the Bristol-Bishops Lydeard run on the 28th May. Sold out already. Have to make do with  photo opportunities on the day.

Might join you!
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2016, 18:00:44 »

Now I know what I'm going to be doing on my birthday !.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2016, 21:59:17 »

I hope I know what I'm doing for part of my birthday. Afterwards, I might go on a train.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2016, 14:43:30 »

The trouble with the Flipping Wastomoney is that it's always wrong - you either get a combination of livery and equipment that's right but steams badly, or one that's wrong but works.
I didn't think there was a combination of livery and equipment that is historically correct prior to it becoming a preserved loco, but I personally think it looks ok in this condition Does it not run well in that condition? What about how Alan Pegler had it (which looks the same to me in some photos, other than the single chimney which I didn't notice until somebody pointed it out)? (another video, I think in the same condition as the other link) Neither of those videos are mine, although I did see one of the "The Sarum Scotsman" trips I'm not sure which one.  What

Tornado was originally introduced in LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) green, with the LNER lettering on the tender, but carried the number 60163. It was still extremely popular!
It was apple green yes, but if I recall correctly it had BRITISH RAILWAYS on the tender not LNER (the first time I saw it anyway).
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2016, 15:21:31 »

...Does it not run well in that condition?

The double chimney improves performance and economy, but gives it a soft exhaust - hence the German-style smoke deflectors. Trouble is, it never ran like that in LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) days; you'd have to ditch the Kylchap gear and blinkers if you wanted it to look right in apple green...

Funny old game, preservation - Pickled Scotchegg has now beed preserved for longer than its time with the LNER and BR (British Rail(ways)) combined, so what is authenticity anyway? They may as well paint it purple and call it Mr Cadbury's Parrot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8kCF_9Uns).

I'm just glad that no such controversies surround City of Truro - indisputably the first loco to acheive 100mph.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2016, 15:57:36 »

...Does it not run well in that condition?

The double chimney improves performance and economy, but gives it a soft exhaust - hence the German-style smoke deflectors. Trouble is, it never ran like that in LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) days; you'd have to ditch the Kylchap gear and blinkers if you wanted it to look right in apple green...

Funny old game, preservation - Pickled Scotchegg has now beed preserved for longer than its time with the LNER and BR (British Rail(ways)) combined, so what is authenticity anyway? They may as well paint it purple and call it Mr Cadbury's Parrot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8kCF_9Uns).

I'm just glad that no such controversies surround City of Truro - indisputably the first loco to acheive 100mph.
"Triggers Broom" syndrome?
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2016, 17:29:23 »

...Does it not run well in that condition?

The double chimney improves performance and economy, but gives it a soft exhaust - hence the German-style smoke deflectors. Trouble is, it never ran like that in LNER» (London North Eastern Railway - about) days; you'd have to ditch the Kylchap gear and blinkers if you wanted it to look right in apple green...

Funny old game, preservation - Pickled Scotchegg has now beed preserved for longer than its time with the LNER and BR (British Rail(ways)) combined, so what is authenticity anyway? They may as well paint it purple and call it Mr Cadbury's Parrot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm8kCF_9Uns).

I'm just glad that no such controversies surround City of Truro - indisputably the first loco to acheive 100mph.

I may be wrong, but I am sure I read somewhere that Flying Scotsman actually started life as an A1 but was converted to  A3 in its BR days, so it is only vaguely similar in preservation to its LNER iteration ?? ??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Class_A3_4472_Flying_Scotsman
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 15:53:17 »

Made its first public run yesterday:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35515743
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2016, 15:58:57 »

She coped with some pretty atrocious conditions yesterday apparently.
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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2016, 07:47:36 »

Just watched her leaving Kings X en route for York. Station seemed to be at a standstill. Naga and John on Breakfast were bouncing up and down on the sofa in excitement. Mind you, ^450 a ticket for todays jolly to York is only for the likes of the moderators on this forum ! Shocked
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« Reply #26 on: February 25, 2016, 09:26:58 »

I saw that too. As a non-football fan, I think I finally understand the level of excitement a Man U supporter experiences on hearing that Liverpool have won the Premier League Trophy.
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« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2016, 10:15:43 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) are reporting the train was halted south of Peterborough after members of the public were spotted the wrong side of the fence.

Certainly when Michael Portillo was being interviewed on BBC Breakfast around 9am the train appeared not to be moving.

Train reported 30 minutes late at Peterborough.
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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2016, 10:21:35 »

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U59844/2016/02/25/advanced
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2016, 11:56:33 »

BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) are reporting the train was halted south of Peterborough after members of the public were spotted the wrong side of the fence.

Sadly there's small minority (quite a large small minority!) of enthusiasts who seem to think the tresspassing rules don't apply to them!   Sad
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