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Author Topic: Newly restored "Flying Scotsman" back in service - ongoing discussion  (Read 73752 times)
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« Reply #240 on: March 21, 2019, 09:11:42 pm »

So what is the attraction, a steam engine on a steam railway, yes it ran at 100 miles an hour, not the first steam engine to do so?
Its also the wrong colour and has two extra bits on the front.....
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« Reply #241 on: March 21, 2019, 09:13:04 pm »

Yes, and I much prefer the other engine in the background of that last photograph Grin
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« Reply #242 on: March 21, 2019, 09:29:23 pm »

Yes, and I much prefer the other engine in the background of that last photograph Grin

Or even better ... something from this page
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« Reply #243 on: March 21, 2019, 10:33:14 pm »

Yes, and I much prefer the other engine in the background of that last photograph Grin

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« Reply #244 on: March 22, 2019, 02:25:27 am »



On tour - from Rail Advent

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The Epping Ongar Railway has announced steam locomotive 419 will be visiting the line in 2019.

419 will be visiting the line for their Steam Gala, which is to be held from the 7th to the 9th June 2019.

The Caledonian tank appears alongside the home fleet of locomotives at the line.
 
The locomotive appears thanks to the Scottish Railway Preservation Society.

No. 419 returned to steam in October 2018 and is based at the Bo’ness and Kinneil Railway in Scotland. The locomotive has not visited England since 1982 and is its first visit to the EOR.

The locomotive was built by the Caledonian Railway at St Rollox Works, Glasgow, in 1907 and was designed by J.F. Mcintosh for branch line work before its career was ended on pilot duties for British Railways at Carstairs.

An appropriate style of locomotive for heritage branch lines.
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« Reply #245 on: May 05, 2019, 05:00:29 pm »

I see Flying Scotsman has been heavily delayed again (2 hours and counting), this time en-route from York to Paddington due to trespassing at several locations.  Other trains also caught up in it as a result.  Time to ban mainline steam?
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« Reply #246 on: May 05, 2019, 06:15:38 pm »

Time to ban mainline steam?

I sense you may be asking that question to provoke discussion?

In my former Community Rail role,  concerned with promoting the station and rail use at Melksham, my initial view was that steam trains calling there were a really good thing.  Then I saw what happened ... at an unstaffed station with a sloped platform end (in those days), whole loads of people - mostly not in the first flush of youth - left the platform and stood on the bank off to one side.   Others walked down the slope too - clear of the track, but not clear of where the train would be coming.    I moved Granny with grandchild in arms back from the line (and I do hope the child didn't hear the words she used) just before the service train came the other way.   The goons on the bank, when I asked them to move as they were setting a bad example, explained that (a) they were perfectly safe, (b) that they had done this before - there was a precedent and (c) I had no authority to move them - I could merely ask, and they were going to decline my request.

Trains at Melksham appear from under a bridge and behind a fence, and a couple of other goons were leaning over - into the path of the train.   They assured me they would pull back as it approached, and there was no need for me to worry about them tripping ...

In following up, I got in touch with the tour organiser, relayed what I had seen and suggested they take a careful look for next time.   Six weeks later (!) they put me in touch with the local volunteer who did their publicity, who said he had send an email to see if someone from the company should be there half an hour before the train next time, and that he would get in touch next time they organised a special ...

I shed no tears that - although a further steam train or two have been scheduled to call at Melksham - it/they were cancelled a week or two before the trips were due.

Who pays the compensation for delays when trespassers on the line get in the way of railway operations?    Is in Network Rail, the train companies who's trains are delayed, or the owner or operator of the steam locomotive that the people who have trespassed have come to see?



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« Reply #247 on: May 05, 2019, 06:34:30 pm »

I remember you recounting that tale before.  Nothing annoys me more than those that think the fact they know more about the railway than your average person gives them some kind of authority and special rights to trespass.
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« Reply #248 on: May 05, 2019, 07:38:24 pm »

Looking at live signalling maps there has been some activity in Hinksey sidings with a light loco being brought in to the front of the train. 

I have heard it is to terminate at Reading with the train then running empty to Southall.
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« Reply #249 on: May 05, 2019, 08:38:08 pm »

Bobm was correct. Currently showing as 5Z31 in platform 15 at Reading on Traksy and on RTT stating problem with engine.
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« Reply #250 on: May 05, 2019, 08:44:32 pm »

Quote from realtime trains: This service was cancelled between Reading and London Paddington due to a problem with a steam locomotive (ME).

Nice end to a 9 day land cruise arround britain a trip on a 800. or is there an HST about.
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« Reply #251 on: May 05, 2019, 08:59:48 pm »

The remaining HSTs have to finish at Laira I understand so unlikely.
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« Reply #252 on: May 05, 2019, 09:14:06 pm »

Quote from realtime trains: This service was cancelled between Reading and London Paddington due to a problem with a steam locomotive (ME).

Nice end to a 9 day land cruise arround britain a trip on a 800. or is there an HST about.

ECS passed my house around  21:00
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« Reply #253 on: May 06, 2019, 06:57:05 am »

From The Sutton and Croydon Guardian
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Due to trespassers on the railway between London Bridge and Peckham Rye all lines are blocked.
As a safety precaution all trains are at a stand while the issue is dealt with by the emergency service and Network Rail.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised.

I'm noting that yesterday we had - once again - services stopped because of trespassers out to see the Flying Scotsman.  This parallel, much more common and less reported type of story reminds us of trespassers on the track elsewhere, and presumable for other reasons than to see heritage trains.
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« Reply #254 on: May 06, 2019, 08:38:43 am »

It has become a very common event on a daily basis as the Twitter accounts of SWR, GWR and SR report.
With Flying Scotsman, surely the charter companies will look twice at using it if they are the ones paying the delay minutes fees.

This is what the train drivers are having to put up with

Thttps://twitter.com/highspeedpanda/status/1125139489255501824?s=21
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