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Author Topic: National Railcard discounts - ongoing discussion, no longer date specific  (Read 7651 times)
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2016, 09:30:08 PM »

But it gets even more complicated. The 16-25 is valid before 10:00 on tickets with a discounted price of ^12.00 or more.

Except there's no minimum fare at weekends, on bank holidays, or in July or August, or on a full moon (probably).

One of the best innovations ever tried on the privatised railway was in the early days of Central Trains, when rather than faffing with railcards, advances, super off-peaks, half savers, groupsaves, great escapes (contd. p74) they just Made The ----ing Fares Cheaper.
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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2017, 05:13:35 PM »

Just found out about this today !
TWO TOGETHER Railcard usually is 30:00 apply online and get 3:00 off
Details at Two together-railcard.co.uk / leaflet    Discount code leaflet3.
Thought it might be of some use.
Edit: this offer runs until May 20th 2017.
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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2017, 08:09:37 PM »

Thought this was the normal online price for any national railcard + 70 for three years...
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« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2017, 10:10:39 AM »

Thought this was the normal online price for any national railcard + 70 for three years...


Indeed so. Please don't tell me of any offers, as I've just forked out 70 to renew my grandad card.

(BTW, I did it online last Wednesday afternoon. It arrived Thursday - impressive!)
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« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2017, 10:59:17 AM »

Be careful.  I know someone who ordered their card on a Monday, received it Tuesday and lost it by Wednesday!
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« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2017, 09:42:37 PM »

Indeed so. Please don't tell me of any offers, as I've just forked out 70 to renew my grandad card.

The various discount offers for Railcards are almost always for the one year variant. Those offers rarely undercut one third (23.33) of the three year 70 price.
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« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2017, 09:43:37 PM »

Be careful.  I know someone who ordered their card on a Monday, received it Tuesday and lost it by Wednesday!

Was that me? Lost a few Railcards in my time.
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2017, 10:38:44 PM »

Actually it wasn't but now you mention it....  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2017, 10:17:00 PM »

My two together card cost me ten pounds and my other railcard is valid from 0930 onwards (it used to be 10am) what railcard is it.... for bonus points guess how many swear words were directed at me in my old job for not selling the unofficial 0959 easement from grateley
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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2017, 10:55:48 PM »

My two together card cost me ten pounds and my other railcard is valid from 0930 onwards (it used to be 10am) what railcard is it.... for bonus points guess how many swear words were directed at me in my old job for not selling the unofficial 0959 easement from grateley

Eh? What unofficial easement ?

In a rare moment of bothering to try to get something done about anything, I asked SWT to consider this easement, which has the benefit of total logic on its side. They waited a couple of months,  apologised for making me wait, and then said they had no intention at all of introducing such a  thing.
So can you buy a ticket from Andover and use it from Grately, ( unofficially), or what is the deal ?

It's a bit less of an issue ( for me ) now that parking is actually possible at Andover, , and usually impossible at Grateley, but that isn't really the point.......
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« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2017, 12:46:59 PM »

Unofficial in that it is not an valid easement at all ..unofficial in that some staff did it anyway to avoid the abuse which lead to more abuse for the staff who followed the rules,the train is at 0959 the railcard is valid after 10am so by selling a ticket for the 0959 discounted with the network card is not valid and by boarding train with said ticket said person would be travelling without a valid ticket and could be subject to a penalty fare

i'm not really sure why you took what i wrote and that lead you to believe that you could board at grately  with an andover ticket ... so without a valid ticket... struggling with your logic on that one i'm afraid!

As a railcard holder you really should be aware of the terms and conditions and its validity (you signed to say that you were)  below is a full list of legitimate valid easements for your railcard along with the t&c's for said product

http://www.network-railcard.co.uk/using-your-railcard/travel-times/

http://www.network-railcard.co.uk/help/railcard-terms-conditions/
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« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2017, 01:46:58 PM »

Unofficial in that it is not an valid easement at all ..unofficial in that some staff did it anyway to avoid the abuse which lead to more abuse for the staff who followed the rules,the train is at 0959 the railcard is valid after 10am so by selling a ticket for the 0959 discounted with the network card is not valid and by boarding train with said ticket said person would be travelling without a valid ticket and could be subject to a penalty fare

i'm not really sure why you took what i wrote and that lead you to believe that you could board at grately  with an andover ticket ... so without a valid ticket... struggling with your logic on that one i'm afraid!

As a railcard holder you really should be aware of the terms and conditions and its validity (you signed to say that you were)  below is a full list of legitimate valid easements for your railcard along with the t&c's for said product

http://www.network-railcard.co.uk/using-your-railcard/travel-times/

http://www.network-railcard.co.uk/help/railcard-terms-conditions/


Some years ago the T&C of the Network card were changed from not being valid on trains SCHEDULED to depart before 10 o'clock to not being valid on trains departing before 10 o'clock.  This means that the Network card is valid on any train that departs at 10 o'clock and later.  If the 0959 departs 1 minute late then your Network railcard ticket would be valid.

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Network Railcard discounts are not valid on tickets for travel before 10.00hrs, Monday to Friday (excluding public holidays). This time restriction applies to all types of tickets.

Above is quoted from the Network Railcard T&C. 
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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2017, 01:54:37 PM »

That is 100% correct :-) ... i did start typing that however felt it was best not to complicate things ... however in this case unless you arrive to purchase your ticket and know the train is delayed (in which case you would be well within your rights to purchase onboard as the tvm will not sell before 10am)if you already have your tickets when you find out that the train is late then the only thing you can do with this information is apply for a refund of the difference if the train departs after 10am
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« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2017, 09:22:07 PM »

Unofficial in that it is not an valid easement at all ..unofficial in that some staff did it anyway to avoid the abuse which lead to more abuse for the staff who followed the rules,the train is at 0959 the railcard is valid after 10am so by selling a ticket for the 0959 discounted with the network card is not valid and by boarding train with said ticket said person would be travelling without a valid ticket and could be subject to a penalty fare

i'm not really sure why you took what i wrote and that lead you to believe that you could board at grately  with an andover ticket ... so without a valid ticket... struggling with your logic on that one i'm afraid!

As a railcard holder you really should be aware of the terms and conditions and its validity (you signed to say that you were)  below is a full list of legitimate valid easements for your railcard along with the t&c's for said product

http://www.network-railcard.co.uk/using-your-railcard/travel-times/

http://www.network-railcard.co.uk/help/railcard-terms-conditions/


i just wondered what you meant by "Unofficial Easement, "is all.
I don't know why you think I am unaware of the T and Cs of a Network Railcard, as I thought my post made clear that I was aware that the 9.59 is outside the terms of the card's discount.
If there is any logic I was looking for, it is just that fares from Grateley and Andover to London, are identical, I think.
Easy to misunderstand on these forums though.
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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2017, 03:44:08 PM »

Checking a couple of fares just now, it looks as though an easement may have been allowed on the 09.59 from Grateley to Waterloo.
( That's if you can find a car parking space of course)



Edit: Ignore this, I was looking at fares on a 2 together, which allow railcard from 9.30.

Still don't understand why two together should have a preferential starting time to  Network Railcard, but there you go......
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