Train Graphic
Great Western Passengers' Forum Great Western Coffee Shop - [home] and [about]
Read about the forum [here].
Register and contribute [here] - it's free.
 21/11/2018 - First Bath Bus panel
21/11/2018 - Consultation end - Angel Road
26/11/2018 - TransWilts Board and Members
26/11/2018 - Bath Clean Air consult ends
28/11/2018 - Melksham RUG
28/11/2018 - WECA Scrutiny
Random Image
Train Running @GWR Twitter Acronyms/Abbreviations Station Comparator Rail News GWR co. site Site Style 1 2 3 4 Chat on off
November 18, 2018, 08:00:57 am *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most liked recent subjects
[97] Four track for Filton Bank - ongoing discussion
[87] Transport for London - the other new line
[65] IETs into passenger service from 16 Oct 2017 and subsequent pe...
[41] A welcome to XC from Bristol to Swindon. Delighted to have yo...
[38] Super Speed Camera
[29] Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption el...
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: 1 ... 22 23 [24] 25 26 ... 48
  Print  
Author Topic: MetroBus  (Read 83088 times)
johnneyw
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 608


Still want to work on the railways when I grow up.


View Profile
« Reply #345 on: April 28, 2018, 06:58:41 pm »

Just imagine how efficient it would be if MetroBug just ran from the depot to the first stop and back again. No delays or problems with ticket machines! None of those pesky passengers!

Metrobust might be taking notes here! 😀
Logged

Railway rock n' roll rebel. I once bought a return ticket and didn't go back!
simonw
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 544


View Profile Email
« Reply #346 on: April 28, 2018, 07:24:24 pm »

I have said it many times, Metrobus will fail because it does not integrate with a frequent rail service!

A bus every 5 minutes, with connecting trains every 10 minutes ... and so on, all on one ticket!

When Metrobus starts in Bradley Stoke, I'll have a twenty minute stroll to Willow Brook shopping centre, and then a 35 minute bus journey to Bristol Centre, or a two minute stroll and get 73 bus for 50 minutes bus journey, or a 12 minute cycle ride to Bristol Parkway for a 15 minute train journey.

Will I get Metrobus?, yes once to try it out, and then back to my bike and train.
Logged
martyjon
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1237


View Profile
« Reply #347 on: April 29, 2018, 11:42:58 am »

I'm intrigued, what will happen on MetroBus when a stops ticket machine is OOO, will the bus drivers convey passengers to the next stop where the ticket machine is fit and well and make passengers get off, get their tickets and wait while the multitude obtain their tickets and reboard the vehicle, that'll slow down the service.
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 22500



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #348 on: April 29, 2018, 01:52:30 pm »

I'm intrigued, what will happen on MetroBus when a stops ticket machine is OOO, will the bus drivers convey passengers to the next stop where the ticket machine is fit and well and make passengers get off, get their tickets and wait while the multitude obtain their tickets and reboard the vehicle, that'll slow down the service.

Split ticketing on buses here in Wiltshire works in a way similar to your suggesting - seniors with ENCTS passes who want to travel on a none-easment service just before 09:30 buy tickets to one stop after the place the bus is scheduled to leave at 09:30+, and get off and on again or - if there's no-one official around, walk up to the driver and check in again.

Of course, seniors have this ENCTS watershed five days out of seven, whereas ticket machines - employing modern electronic reliable robust technology - will very rarely by Out of Order, so the delays in this circumstance will be very rare indeed, right?
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Member of Melksham Rail User Group, on the board of TravelWatch SouthWest and some more things besides
martyjon
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1237


View Profile
« Reply #349 on: April 29, 2018, 04:28:17 pm »

.... whereas ticket machines - employing modern electronic reliable robust technology - will very rarely by Out of Order, so the delays in this circumstance will be very rare indeed, right?

Wrong, modern electronic reliable robust technology will still require frequent human intervention to replenish the machines supply of ticket blanks when they run out. Grin
Logged
Four Track, Now!
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3829


I know nothing. Really.


View Profile Email
« Reply #350 on: April 29, 2018, 06:57:45 pm »

I'm intrigued, what will happen on MetroBus when a stops ticket machine is OOO, will the bus drivers convey passengers to the next stop where the ticket machine is fit and well and make passengers get off, get their tickets and wait while the multitude obtain their tickets and reboard the vehicle, that'll slow down the service.

One of a number of questions that are unanswered. Some of them are unasked, and will only become apparent if and when it opens for business.
Logged

Now, please!
Red Squirrel
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 2293


The first town plan. An idea that had legs.


View Profile
« Reply #351 on: April 29, 2018, 07:57:04 pm »

We could always look for a precedent - presumably at least one of the hundreds of other operators worldwide who use this sort of system will have come up with a good answer.
Logged

Sir. Does this mean that Ann-Margret's not coming?
Four Track, Now!
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 3829


I know nothing. Really.


View Profile Email
« Reply #352 on: April 29, 2018, 11:20:00 pm »

We could always look for a precedent - presumably at least one of the hundreds of other operators worldwide who use this sort of system will have come up with a good answer.

As we don't seem to have consulted any of them before building MetroBust, I shouldn't think we have done much research into ticketing options. Most of the ones I have seen in foreign climes seem to involve a tobacconist's shop next to the stop. The only one I can think of along the MetroBust route is the kiosk in the Asdabury in Bedminster Parade.

Foreign operators would probably stand outside Temple Meads and wonder where the BRT route is. In Buenos Aires, it is the four lane middle bit of Avenue 9 de Julio, just down from Belgrano station, with 6 lanes of traffic either side. We don't have squares that big in Brizzle, let alone roads. In Lisbon, buses follow the tram tracks where they are separated from the roads. I haven't been to Curitiba in Brazil yet, but I am told they have bi-articulated buses running entirely separately from all other traffic, yet fully integrated with all public transport. They would probably look at MetroBust and say "But it's just a bus!" So it's probably best that we don't embarass ourselves by asking for advice.
Logged

Now, please!
Bmblbzzz
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1618


View Profile
« Reply #353 on: April 30, 2018, 11:46:12 am »

They would probably look at MetroBust and say "But it's just a bus!"
Nonsense! It's a... Actually, I think we might (as in public opinion, press, etc) be accepting that it is in fact just a bus and a couple of bridges; and the more we accept that, the better, I reckon. At least it will lessen the disappointment from overblown expectations!
Logged

Day return to Infinity, please.
Bmblbzzz
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1618


View Profile
« Reply #354 on: April 30, 2018, 10:04:50 pm »

The BristleLivePost, or is it Bristol Post-Life, has a story about "Bristol's silliest bus lane," referring to lane on Cumberland Rd installed for MetroBus. The alleged silliness comes from its short length and the parking spaces in it. Ok, that's silly but Bristol's silliest? The bus lane on Gloucester Rd has exactly the same features, as I'm sure do many others.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/metrobus-bristol-silliest-bus-lane-1517434

As an aside I rode my bicycle in this lane yesterday and over the nearby bridge (the one near Create Centre, not the new snaky one!) so I'm going to claim I've already used MetroBus.  Tongue
Logged

Day return to Infinity, please.
johnneyw
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 608


Still want to work on the railways when I grow up.


View Profile
« Reply #355 on: April 30, 2018, 10:11:31 pm »

Bmblbzzz, at this rate you might be able to say we're using the only means of transport on it. 😊
Logged

Railway rock n' roll rebel. I once bought a return ticket and didn't go back!
martyjon
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1237


View Profile
« Reply #356 on: May 01, 2018, 02:18:45 am »

The BristleLivePost, or is it Bristol Post-Life, has a story about "Bristol's silliest bus lane," referring to lane on Cumberland Rd installed for MetroBus. The alleged silliness comes from its short length and the parking spaces in it. Ok, that's silly but Bristol's silliest? The bus lane on Gloucester Rd has exactly the same features, as I'm sure do many others.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/metrobus-bristol-silliest-bus-lane-1517434

As an aside I rode my bicycle in this lane yesterday and over the nearby bridge (the one near Create Centre, not the new snaky one!) so I'm going to claim I've already used MetroBus.  Tongue

Are you also referring to the Non Bus Lane Fishponds Road Bus Lane from the Cross Hands in Fishponds to Royate Hill in Eastville by any chance.

On my last reconnaissance over at Lyde Green I noticed that the double yellow line painters have been busy and have completed an almost continuous stretch of double yellow lines through the residential streets that Metrobus will operate along when the service commences at the end of this month.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2018, 02:55:19 am by martyjon » Logged
Bmblbzzz
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1618


View Profile
« Reply #357 on: May 02, 2018, 09:53:33 pm »

Sorry, no, I'm referring to the lane on Cumberland Rd. And the one on Gloucester Rd, but that's not for MetroBus. I haven't been up Fishponds Rd for quite some time!
Logged

Day return to Infinity, please.
martyjon
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1237


View Profile
« Reply #358 on: May 03, 2018, 06:31:52 am »

Quote
The bus lane on Gloucester Rd has exactly the same features, as I'm sure do many others.

I interpreted the ' many others ' to include other useless sections of bus lanes within the city boundaries when I referred to the Non Bus Lane Fishponds Road Bus Lane from the Cross Hands in Fishponds to Royate Hill in Eastville.
Logged
martyjon
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 1237


View Profile
« Reply #359 on: May 03, 2018, 04:06:55 pm »

Another Mishap ?

Had a couple of pints lunchtime today with my knowledgeable MetroBus informer and he told me the latest.

When the dimwits at MetroBus HQ announced the start date of the rapidly brought forward / somewhat rather  belatedly opening of this wunderful white elephant with the hurriedly elevation of the route M3 as the launch route of this service they did so without consulting the bus company which had been chosen to operate the service. It transpired that the earliest the service could start going through the set down regulatory procedure relating to the introduction of new local bus services was June 10th. Oh dear, we've already announced it as May 29th, it was intended to be May 28th until it was pointed out that May 28th was a Bank Holiday, never mind said the boss who relishes in spending other people money we'll run it free from the date we've already announced until June 9th provided the operating bus company can provide the resources and we'll reimburse the bus company out of the taxpayers bottomless barrel of cash for doing so. Now the dimwits have to explain to the Traffic Commissioners why the service is not commencing on June 10th as the approved application is now effective from and starting on June 11th instead.

From a press release ;-

Quote
The first MetroBus route, Service M3 will commence operating from 27 May 2018 and will link the City Centre with Emersons Green via UWE every 20 minutes Monday to Saturday between approximately 0600 and 1900 and every 30 minutes between 1900 and 2100. There will be no service on Sundays and Public Holidays.

Service M3 will operate a limited stop service and will take advantage of a number of bus priority measures along the route, including the M32 bus only junction.

Service M3 will be free of charge to use until 9 June 2018.

After 9 June 2018 tickets will need to be purchased off-bus as MetroBus does not allow for tickets to be purchased from the driver. This can be done by Metrobus iPoints, First mTicket app, Travelwest smartcards, payZone stores or Avon/Bristol rider tickets.

Service UWE will be withdrawn from 27 May 2018. Passengers normally using service UWE during the summer holidays will be able to use MetroBus Service M3 for travel between the City Centre and UWE. Service M3 operates up to every 20 minutes between 0600 and 2100.

Also they've dropped clangers in the press release as quoted above. They've stated that the service will commence operating from 27 May 2018 (actually its from 29 May) and operate every 20 minutes from approximately 06:00 to 19:00 and then every 30 minutes until 21:00 and later in the same press release relating to the withdrawal of the UWE service stating that users of the UWE service will be able to use the new M3 service which operates up to every 20 minutes between 06:00 and 21:00.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2018, 04:13:43 pm by martyjon » Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: 1 ... 22 23 [24] 25 26 ... 48
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by a customer of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants