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« Reply #570 on: August 10, 2018, 03:26:03 pm »

You can't - the only way is with a card, either Oyster or contactless debit / credit. It's brilliant, IMHO, with a flat fare so you don't have to tap out at the end of the journey, and a daily cap. It's what we should have in Bristol, instead of the monolithic ticket machines.
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« Reply #571 on: August 10, 2018, 04:13:07 pm »

Before the introduction of contactless payment, London buses were pay before you board within the central area and pay driver elsewhere
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« Reply #572 on: August 10, 2018, 06:17:49 pm »

You can't - the only way is with a card, either Oyster or contactless debit / credit. It's brilliant, IMHO, with a flat fare so you don't have to tap out at the end of the journey, and a daily cap. It's what we should have in Bristol, instead of the monolithic ticket machines.
I agree. I presume the reason we're stuck with ticket machines is because we don't have the funding available to set up an electronic system. And maybe because only TfL is powerful enough to get multiple operators to use one system.

Before the introduction of contactless payment, London buses were pay before you board within the central area and pay driver elsewhere
Ok, so it does make sense then, albeit out of date.
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« Reply #573 on: August 10, 2018, 08:39:07 pm »

.... And maybe because only TfL is powerful enough to get multiple operators to use one system.

What about the "Bristol Freedom Travelpass" ticket available for travel on most buses and trains within an area bounded in the west by Weston-S-M, in the east by Freshford and the north by both Pilning and Yate. The ticket is available in a combination of zones and for periods of 1 day, 7 days or a calendar month. My only gripe with this ticket is the map shows Cribbs Causeway to be north of Pilning in Zone C when the blob for Cribbs should be next to Patchway in Zone A.
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« Reply #574 on: August 11, 2018, 02:34:02 pm »

I hadn't heard of that. But it's clearly a bit of a "special ticket" rather than a unified payment system for all and every journey.
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« Reply #575 on: August 12, 2018, 03:24:09 pm »

I agree. I presume the reason we're stuck with ticket machines is because we don't have the funding available to set up an electronic system. And maybe because only TfL is powerful enough to get multiple operators to use one system.

We are stuck with ticket machines because of a complete lack of vision. The "multiple operators" will be down by one soon, as Wessex goes the way of all flesh, and First aren't looking too secure. A loss of over 300 million has put the rat among the pigeons, and Stagecoach are rumoured to be looking at cherry picking. There are also Turners, Buglers, Eastville Coaches, ABus, and a lot of others, but most run one route somewhat irregularly. If the Western Super Mayor would stop worrying about MetroBust and concentrate on improvements to public transport instead, we could have a properly joined up network similar to how London works. We have the technology already - the bus machines are all ITSO compliant, and there has been a substantial "back office" to divvy up the fares for more years than there have been bus operators running the system. The totems could remain to give information about next buses, some of it accurate, but where is the sense in having to use a bank card to buy a ticket when you could use the card to board the bus?
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« Reply #576 on: August 13, 2018, 10:44:47 am »

where is the sense in having to use a bank card to buy a ticket when you could use the card to board the bus?
Nicely put. I'll try to remember this and use it, if you don't mind! A fare has to be paid, a ticket represents this and we have become used to conflating the ticket with the fare.
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« Reply #577 on: August 13, 2018, 05:30:15 pm »

As I watched one of those lovely new buses swish past earlier today with its single passenger, for some reason the old strapline of the Evening Post came to mind: The Paper all Bristol asked for and helped to create. Perhaps MetroBus could adopt that for its motto: MetroBus: The transport solution all Bristol opposed and tried to prevent...
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