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« on: September 25, 2016, 09:06:00 »

Woken by a phone call a few minutes ago [7:15 a.m., Sunday] - a young (?) lady asking in broken English for the times of buses from Chippenham to Melksham. She's been working overnight in Chippenham, gone to the bus stop and found nothing. Very disappointed that to learn that there's no buses at all on a Sunday and the first train isn't until 11:45. Recently moved to Melksham, polite, taken aback by the news. And I would guess likely to be significantly effected by the lack of any public transport option on Sunday morning on future weekends to the detriment of her job.

We have achieved a great deal positive in the TransWilts corridor with regards trains and their use in recent years - with the current trial service succeeding beyond even the most optimistic of official / consultants forecasts, and very much towards the top end of what we in the community saw as likely even in the event of the rail companions, the local council and ourselves all pulling together which - with LSTF (Local Sustainable Transport Fund) (local sustainable transport fund) grant monies from the DfT» (Department for Transport - about) they have done.

Over past years, we've worked with a strategy on rail on this route.  At the time the service was truly appalling (only Sunday train for the young lady at 18:06 and no buses) we set out a four point plan.   1. Get people to realise there was a case for change;  2. Get that case properly looked at and to evaluate what was an "appropriate" service;  3. Get that appropriate service; 4. Retain that appropriate service.   As the trial comes to an end in ten weeks, we're definitely in phase 4 - working to retain the service, and I've suggested in the past that this phase requires more work and effort than any of the other three.   Please do take note that I am not panicking, and I anticipate ongoing services, with the community and the train operator working ever closely together - with perhaps a diminished local authority involvement as they've been the LSTF channel for the specific three year period,  and have severe budget limitations which reduce / remove their ability to provide financial support; I can't help feel that such a scenario makes sense as the farebox income isn't doing too badly.  Anyway - I would be surprised and disappointed is there aren't announcements very soon concerning a service into 2017.

But we still have work to do. We have service gaps such as that identified by the lady this morning.  Were she to be a unique traveller - the only person who would use a service - then it would be a case of "sorry - no-one's going to provide a public transport service just for you".  Alas, that's emphatically not the case.  In the brief window of high summer, we have an earlier Sunday train. It's popular, it's busy, and it attracts a lot of users who are headed to and from things that go on all year.   And are there people out there who would use that train and other trains who we currently don't reach through our on-train and on-station surveys?   Yes - absolutely; those people are hard to reach and ask, but we had a specific survey at the Food and River festival - a stall at an event for Melksham's town people - earlier this month.  We asked "why don't you use the train" of people who don't, and here's the result:



I take heart from the Heart of Wessex line to Weymouth, where Sunday morning trains start running all year for 2017. I take heart from the Exmouth line, which has had similar improvements.   I take heart from the fact that I no longer get laughed out of the building when I raise this need.

Taking a further look at the survey, I note the requests for more and longer trains - with these results reflecting the on-train survey work too.  An I note that the request I highlighted is "earlier and later" trains ... the last train from Westbury to Swindon at 18:32 on Saturdays prevents anyone getting home to Melksham or Chippenham after an evening's work or visit to Trowbridge, and the last train on Monday to Friday off Swindon at 20:06 leaves a significant late gap too.  Trains are crowded during the day, and an earlier and later round trip by the train that's there as a shuttle anyway would do wonders.    As would adding a carriage to it, as we've got people saying "I don't use the train - I can't get a seat" with growth already noted to be somewhat reduced.

Whilst we have a transport success on which we should continue to grow, the story of the parallel bus route isn't so rosy.   Years ago, there was an hourly bus from early to late.   Then we had competition, with buses running twice (and latterly three times) an hour during the daytime.  Then the operator running the early and late services withdrew, and we now have a service running only up until 18:30 and six days... itself an improvement (for which we're grateful) as the last service was 17:35 for a while.  Would people use the evening service?   Yes - the late evening bus which ended in August 2015 had double-figure numbers on it when I used it; predominantly between the towns (so train would have been a substitute) but also local.

With growth of passenger numbers comes - as has already been pointed out - the need for longer trains and more facilities, and this applies in terms of route and station capacity too.   Yesterday - a Saturday - I visited the station midmorning when a train called and a good number got on and off.  People leaving the train walked though the station forecourt, along the marked path through the yard where there was a great deal of vehicle traffic, with cars and vans being jacked up for tyre changes and the like, and queuing for bay access.   This wasn't a huge issue when no-one was using the trains, but it's becoming something of a concern.  And there are other related issues,  with requirements for longer trains to be fully platformed, and for rail access for towns such as Wilton and perhaps Royal Wootton Bassett in the future.   And a strong desire to join up services to give direct links to Southampton and the airport, and perhaps to make it easier and quicker for our passengers (including those from Chippenham and Swindon) to reach Oxford, the midlands and the north.   Such development work is a natural area for us to work with Wiltshire Council and with the LEP» (Local Enterprise Partnership - about) and we look forward to doing so - after all, the TransWilts rail line is seen as the backbone of the Local Transport Plan which runs though 2026.
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2016, 11:23:49 »

The first service liskeard to Plymouth on a Sunday is 1005, and that's so called a main line.
There is a bus at 0730, 0830, 0930 all arriving to Plymouth 55 mins later.
The bus fare is double the train fare and takes twice the time. I understand a lot of people from liskeard commute to Plymouth, including Sunday's for retail with a presumably 10am starts.

Like the lady mentioned in the op I now work what is classed as a night shift (more than 3 hrs a day between 11pm and 7am), and the car is the only option for me
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2016, 13:15:49 »

Sunday is very much a working day for me, and I would welcome earlier train and bus services.

However I also note that today is only the second one in the last six weeks which has not been affected by over-running engineering work.  I would be nervous on relying on an earlier train service based on that record.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2016, 14:54:32 »

Sunday is very much a working day for me, and I would welcome earlier train and bus services.

However I also note that today is only the second one in the last six weeks which has not been affected by over-running engineering work.  I would be nervous on relying on an earlier train service based on that record.

The record of the first Sunday train in high summer has been very poor indeed - to the extent I have felt embarrassed to be promoting it. On current performance, "they" are probably right not to try to run it all year to Swindon without the engineering works being sorted - and that perhaps means waiting until the majority of electrification works through there are more advanced / operating.   I am heartened to see the Weymouth line, on which Sunday morning trains couldn't be run in winter as "the time was needed for engineering" WILL have Sunday trains in the mornings from December, and I look forward to that extension to what's now very much part of the working week for a lot of us up, and right up, the TransWilts in due course.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2016, 18:43:27 »

Many bus services rely on Council funding to maintain Sunday services.   We all know what Councils have been doing with cutbacks to this and that.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2016, 19:01:07 »

Many bus services rely on Council funding to maintain Sunday services.

Monday to Saturday too  Wink

Whether that current system is best for passengers, potential bus passengers, councillors, bus operators, the economy of the area, council officers, other road users, taxpayers is an interesting question.  There's perhaps a clue as to what the government thinks in that they've introduced the Bus Services Bill to parliament, which will offer alternative options, and it's very instructive to talk with those who have studied the bill or are in the forefront of amending their setups based on what it will allow, as I have been fortunate enough to do.
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