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Author Topic: Train overshoots Pewsey station - Driver forgot to stop!  (Read 33333 times)
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« on: October 22, 2016, 18:04:56 »

A train driver overshot a station by nearly a quarter of a mile after allegedly forgetting to stop, forcing passengers to take a 22-mile detour.

The Great Western Rail (GWR (Great Western Railway)) train is believed to have had hundreds of commuters on board when it failed to stop at Pewsey, Wiltshire.

The driver was forced to continue to Westbury, the next station, which is more than 20 miles away, with commuters told the train could not reverse back to the platform.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/20/train-overshoots-station-after-driver-forgets-to-stop-sending-pa/
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2016, 19:51:15 »

Purely in the interests of accuracy, this incident occurred on Friday 14 October 2016.

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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2016, 22:39:27 »

Purely in the interests of accuracy, this incident occurred on Friday 14 October 2016.

Indeed it was. I am rather surprised no-one has mentioned it on here up till now.

In the 80's I was on a train between Portsmouth and Southampton which overshot a station and the driver simply reversed back to the platform!
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2016, 23:54:19 »

I was on a metropolitan line train on the Uxbridge branch a couple of years ago which overshot a station by over half a train length. Similarly it carried on to the next stop, albeit very slowly. I believe it is a relatively common occurrence when the driver is faced with clear signals and simply forgets to stop or misses his/her braking points - obviously ATP (Automatic Train Protection) of whatever flavour should prevent anything dangerous happening. Somewhat more inconvenient to be over carried on the national network where the next station could be 30-40 minutes or so further down the line in some cases!
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 10:26:01 »

The distance between Pewsey and Westbury must also be one of the largest between 2 stations in the GWR (Great Western Railway) network?
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2016, 11:04:57 »

Pewsey – Westbury is 20.25 miles.  Didcot – Swindon is 23 miles and Swindon – Bristol Parkway (probably the longest gap) is 34.5 miles.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2016, 11:34:35 »

Pewsey – Westbury is 20.25 miles.  Didcot – Swindon is 23 miles and Swindon – Bristol Parkway (probably the longest gap) is 34.5 miles.

What's the Castle Cary to Taunton distance?
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2016, 13:20:10 »

Pewsey – Westbury is 20.25 miles.  Didcot – Swindon is 23 miles and Swindon – Bristol Parkway (probably the longest gap) is 34.5 miles.

What's the Castle Cary to Taunton distance?

27.5 miles
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2016, 14:13:06 »

Thanks guys - how little I know! (surprised Didcot to Swindon is that far).

Still, it's a long way to take the pax past the stop they hoped to get off at :-(
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2016, 14:33:48 »

would the new driver's advisory system (or whatever it is called) not remind a driver that s/he needs to stop??
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2016, 17:14:21 »

It tells you the next stop, but doesn't alert you to the next stop by making a noise or anything.  Something which would be pretty easy to do and would cut down the number of fail to calls and station overruns at a stroke.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2016, 06:06:34 »

A train driver overshot a station by nearly a quarter of a mile after allegedly forgetting to stop, forcing passengers to take a 22-mile detour.

The Great Western Rail (GWR (Great Western Railway)) train is believed to have had hundreds of commuters on board when it failed to stop at Pewsey, Wiltshire.

The driver was forced to continue to Westbury, the next station, which is more than 20 miles away, with commuters told the train could not reverse back to the platform.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/20/train-overshoots-station-after-driver-forgets-to-stop-sending-pa/

According to a number of tweets on Twitter, on Monday evening (5th Dec) a GWR train failed to stop at Pewsey AGAIN!

This time it was the 1C91 1733 Paddington to Paignton service.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2016, 12:29:57 »

RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) confirms it: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C41508/2016/12/05/advanced
What is the implication for drivers? Are they given a reprimand if they forget to stop?
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2016, 13:20:07 »

The newspaper article manages to contradict itself.

If, as stated in the third paragraph, the distance between Pewsey and Westbury is more than 20 miles (its is actually 20 miles and 22 chains) then the detour quoted in the first paragraph must be 40 miles and not 22!
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2016, 13:52:36 »

RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) confirms it: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C41508/2016/12/05/advanced
What is the implication for drivers? Are they given a reprimand if they forget to stop?

It counts as an operational incident and unless it's not their fault (i.e not due to leaf fall, or a diagram error) they will go on a CDP (Competence Development Plan) which involves extra monitoring of them for a defined period.  Should they have a similar incident again within 5 years (also includes other things such as a fail to call, door release on the wrong side etc.), then a longer and more detailed plan would be started and three or more within 5 years and you start getting into safety review meetings and possible removal from driving.
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