TfL to take command of the capital's entire suburban rail network

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[stuving]

According to DfT^» (Department for Transport - about), their "consultation" that ended in March is still not analysed. TfL^» (Transport for London - about) seem to have transmuted it into an "engagement", i.e. a way of soliciting support. Now they have  moved on to the next stage, and presented a business case to DfT. This has those supporting statements appended to it, along with a lot of other stuff - a definition of "metroisation", maps showing proposed service patterns, etc.

The documents are on this page, and the business case itself is here.

[ChrisB]

more reliable services

How, exactly.....they don't back this statement up

[IndustryInsider]

I'm a little sceptical too, ChrisB, though it's fair to say the report does attempt to back such claims up by pointing to the improvements in the devolved West Anglia services in their first year of operation.  The number of trains arriving outside of the PPM^‡(resolve) reduced from 4.8% to 4% over the same three periods the last two years.  However, that could easily be as much down to weather/infrastructure factors (i.e. luck) than it is to the things under their direct control, but the old trains are certainly more reliable now they've had a refurbishment.

[ChrisB]

maps showing proposed service patterns, etc.

Can't find these - which document are they contained within?

[stuving]

maps showing proposed service patterns, etc.

Can't find these - which document are they contained within?

Appendix 5 of the business case - strictly they are presented as examples of "metroisation". I note that there isn't one, nor any real proposals, for the services into Waterloo.

[paul7575]

Appendix 5 of the business case - strictly they are presented as examples of "metroisation". I note that there isn't one, nor any real proposals, for the services into Waterloo.

The Crossrail 2 consultation that is already underway will break the back of the Waterloo service division of responsibility.   What remains on the main suburban side after CR2 is a heck of a lot simpler than the complex service patterns on both Southern and Southeastern, as SWT^▸ (South West Trains) services only serve one terminus, and there are no massive infrastructure problems to solve such as Herne Hill, Lewisham, and Windmill Bridge Jns (Croydon). 
 
Compared to them residual SWT is comparatively very simple.    Users of existing routes in the other two areas are used to at least a choice of through trains to two main destination termini, sometimes three, City or West End, and I expect that TfL^» (Transport for London - about)'s idea of increasing tph but reducing choice in favour of more interchange will not get an easy ride...

Paul