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« Reply #120 on: October 10, 2018, 09:36:50 pm »

BBC Radio Bristol news have added a story from late afternoon today that lighter trains or even trams are to be looked at as a means of making the reopening of the Portishead line more affordable. That's all I could find for now, online BBC local news has nowt and I'm not even going to bother with the online Evening Post as they probably won't find out about this before November.

Let's not be too hard on the Evening Bristol for not knowing about this; Portishead Railway Group don't seem to have heard either. Maybe some journo just overheard some friends and I fantasising after 5 pints in the front bar of the Highbury Vaults...

Judging by the time the BBC started running the article this afternoon it must have been a prolonged lunch in that fine hostelry. 😀
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« Reply #121 on: October 10, 2018, 09:38:14 pm »

BBC Radio Bristol news have added a story from late afternoon today that lighter trains or even trams are to be looked at as a means of making the reopening of the Portishead line more affordable. That's all I could find for now, online BBC local news has nowt and I'm not even going to bother with the online Evening Post as they probably won't find out about this before November.

There is huge sense in looking at all the options ... and huge sense in not spending so much time you look at all the options that you end up delivering nothing.  I have no sense in knowing where we are at - viewed from afar (Wiltshire) I'm feeling a bit impatient and wish they would just get on with it.

Noting how the Bury line comes into Manchester Victoria then into the City ... could the Portishead tram, running every 10 minutes, come into platform 2 at Temple Meads then turn left and go down the ramp and do a circuit of the City?
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« Reply #122 on: October 10, 2018, 09:54:56 pm »

I've long believed in just getting from Portishead to Temple Meads to start with before anything else. The notion of extending out of the station however is new one to me. It would be a very tight turn from platform 2 to go down the ramp (and then onwards somewhere). That, if at all possible, would really be a "phase two" proposal. Platform 2 was the old Motorail vehicle entrance though so maybe, just maybe.
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« Reply #123 on: October 12, 2018, 01:41:21 pm »

There's a bit more on the light rail for Portishead proposal now on the BBC local news website quoting the Metromayor who seems to behind this despite it not really being in his area of jurisdiction.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45822170?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/localnews/2654675-bristol/0&link_location=live-reporting-story
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« Reply #124 on: October 12, 2018, 02:51:14 pm »

I've long believed in just getting from Portishead to Temple Meads to start with before anything else. The notion of extending out of the station however is new one to me. It would be a very tight turn from platform 2 to go down the ramp (and then onwards somewhere). That, if at all possible, would really be a "phase two" proposal. Platform 2 was the old Motorail vehicle entrance though so maybe, just maybe.

#MeToo. It isn't beyond the realms of possibility - the undergrowth west of P2 hides some rusty old lines that probably were to do with the former depot and, according to a sign in the brambles, milk terminal. These could make for a gentler turn, although modern light rail can make some very tight turns as my experience in Manchester, Birmingham, lowly Blackpool, and abroad has shown. A loop around the city centre via the Grove, through the bus lanes and Nelson Street to Broadmead and returning maybe via Old Market would also give passengers arriving from anywhere else a far better option for travel in the central area than the current buses. I have also wondered whether a route passing by St Philips Marsh depot to serve the dubious Avonmeads before crossing the main line either via a bit of street running over the bridge or its own skew bridge into somewhere west of P1 could be affordable. The bridge from there into Plot 6 and Friary already exists. That would open up further possibilities to the north, as well as possibly along the old alignment through Brislington. Plus it would be handy for Wetherspoons.

BBC Radio Bristol news have added a story from late afternoon today that lighter trains or even trams are to be looked at as a means of making the reopening of the Portishead line more affordable. That's all I could find for now, online BBC local news has nowt and I'm not even going to bother with the online Evening Post as they probably won't find out about this before November.

Let's not be too hard on the Evening Bristol for not knowing about this; Portishead Railway Group don't seem to have heard either. Maybe some journo just overheard some friends and I fantasising after 5 pints in the front bar of the Highbury Vaults...

Gosh, I used to spend Friday evenings there, quaffing SA, later Smiles, and making sure the bar stayed up. I even used to pull pints there when it got busy. I haven't been there in a long while, but I wouldn't be surprised to find the same faces.
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« Reply #125 on: October 12, 2018, 03:42:42 pm »

One part of that BBC report confuses me tho...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45822170?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/localnews/2654675-Bristol/0&link_location=live-reporting-story

"The move could also open up the possibility of running direct trains from Severn Beach to Bath and Westbury"

I understand the proposals for Metrowest was to provide two new Severn Beach services;
One Portishead to Severn Beach
One Severn Beach to Bath

I'm definitely still 100% behind the re-introduction of Portishead line services, but to say that's the only way a new Severn Beach to Bath / Westbury could be introduced makes no sense to me...  or am I missing something in my confused Friday afternoon state of mind?!   Wink
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« Reply #126 on: October 12, 2018, 04:02:36 pm »

I wondered about that too. Severn Beach to Bath seems to have been an early suggestion for Metrowest which has more recently been proposed as SB to Westbury. Portishead to SB  was the other early suggestion an in my opinion too much too soon. Portishead to the railway interchange that is Temple Meads with frequent connections regionally are, IMO, all most people would want, especially if this means more frequent services too and from Port Z.
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