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Author Topic: Drunk man saved by railway worker: real or fake film?  (Read 651 times)
Bmblbzzz
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« on: January 25, 2017, 11:20:24 AM »

This has come up elsewhere. Apparently from a Chinese TV news station though there's no indication of where it's supposed to have happened a man, apparently drunk, tries to push a bike laden with shopping bags across a track. He stumbles, a train approaches, he is rugby-tackled off the track by one of a group of railway workers.
https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevision/videos/1292176804157760/

There's some doubt as to its authenticity, which I won't discuss yet so as to not put ideas into anyone's mind, but also doubt as to why on earth and how it would be faked. What do the esteemed and knowledgeable forumites think?

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 12:02:37 PM »

Those could almost be FGW colours! No idea about the authenticity but I do like the way the maintenance worker lobs something at the cyclist right at the end when he wanders back onto the track. Grin
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 12:20:31 PM »

Fake, fake, fakity fake.

Footage of a First Capital Connect branded Class 319 superimposed onto a piece of track from elsewhere. Pantograph is down and there is no third rail. No way for the 319 to be drawing current in that video.

Shadows, or rather lack of them from the train, are also an issue.

Why it was made, I've no idea.

Loathe as I am to link to the gutter press, the Daily Mail got the 'story' right.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3854812/

Can I suggest to the Mods that this thread be moved to the Lighter Side board. This is most definitely not broadcast media news. Just another example of the fake news pervading Facebook.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 05:35:05 PM »

Well it is broadcast media from a TV broadcaster; broadcast doesn't exclude fake! I did think about putting it in Lighter Side but that didn't seem quite right; though I agree this board doesn't quite fit either.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 05:38:18 PM »

What looked most odd to me, apart from the 'halo' around the train, was the behaviour of the track workers, calmly carrying on their task as the train approached.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 06:27:24 PM »

Can I suggest to the Mods that this thread be moved to the Lighter Side board. This is most definitely not broadcast media news. Just another example of the fake news pervading Facebook.

Suggestion appreciated ... but I don't think this is an at all obvious move . The board subject line states:

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For news of television and radio programmes with a railway / other means of transport content, and discussion of them after they've been broadcast

So it's not purely news programs - it's news of programs. That means that (for example) the "Thomas the Tank Engine" show is in scope, even though many of us have severe doubts as to his authenticity.

Where there may be a case to move it is that the board is described as "television and radio programs" and this item has been broadcast as a social media video rather than TV or radio.  But if we exclude this video on those grounds, we're also excluding podcasts, and films like Trainspotting 2 which I believe is or will soon be out in the cinema.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2017, 06:46:48 PM »

It is a fake video that has been shared on Facebook by NTD Television.

Facebook are doing what they can to ensure such fakery is clearly marked and not dressed up as news. That broacasters such as NTD have been taken in does however makes it difficult for Facebook to police.

Sharing such items further on forums, suggesting they are news, or news of programmes perpetuates the misinformation.

It's a clever bit of video editing, but it is not news. It's a gewgaw of unknown purpose. Fake, not fiction.

I'm all for discussing the fakery, the content, the reasons why someone made it. I just think that discussion would be better on another board. No criticism of the OP is intended. I agree it's a difficult call as to where it should go.

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